[OT] why isn't bikeshed good enough as a sounder replacement?

[Ric Moore]

On Fri, 2011-06-17 at 08:16 +0200, Amedee Van Gasse wrote: 
> On 06/16/11 20:08, Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
> > On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 11:34:04 -0500
> > Jordon Bedwell<jordon at envygeeks.com>  wrote:
> 
> *snip*
> 
> >> Start going to meetings and start speaking up, or shut it with the
> >> lies.
> >>
> > I vote locally.
> 
> *snip*
> 
> Contrary to popular belief, Ubuntu is not a democracy. Neither is any 
> other Linux or Open Source endeavour. Ubuntu is a meritocracy: if you 
> want to have something to say, you have to earn it.
> 
> It is also common in Open Source projects to fork, either because some 
> people are unhappy or because someone wants to try out a new 
> experimental feature. Forks are not a Bad Thing, on the contrary. Do Not 
> Fear The Fork, Embrace It. Forks are a sign of innovation. This is 
> exactly what happened with bikeshed: it forked away from Ubuntu. Only 
> time will tell if bikeshed will ever become more popular than Ubuntu, or 
> if it will slowly die out.
> 
> My predicition is: if bikeshed ever wants to have more ambition than 
> just being a chatbox, then a democratic model is unsustainable. You will 
> have to switch to some kind of meritocratic model, and then there will 
> be again a few unhappy people, who will eventually fork away and form 
> their own group.

Why would bikeshed want to have more "ambition". when it's avowed
purpose is to be a replacement for sounder (which was the official
Ubuntu "chatbox")? Sounder was never the Ubuntu support list. Not
same-same, according to my perspective.  

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"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
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