From IRC and a NEW USER: "Ubuntu is so horrible to try and use..."

[Ric Moore]

On Tue, 2011-06-14 at 15:10 +0100, Liam Proven wrote: 
> On 14 June 2011 08:26, Ric Moore <wayward4now at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, 2011-06-14 at 08:13 +0100, Alan Pope wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> I can equally find comments from people who like it. I fail to see how
> >> one remark from one user makes an article, but fill your boots.
> >
> > Al, you could suggest that the users that hate both unity and gnome give
> > KDE a whirl. Heck, I love it... but I do not install Kubuntu. I just
> > install the standard Ubuntu install and add KDE to it.
> 
> Er. Why? Wouldn't Kubuntu be much easier, less work and less disk space?

The Kubuntu installation will install "phonon" which attempts to
displace pulse... which only makes it all weirder and difficult to
manage sound. Installing Ubuntu first will setup pulse (like it or
loathe it) correctly. Then when you install KDE on top, pulse seems to
remain in control. Best of both worlds to me. They were supposed to drop
phonon in 10.10 ...I protested that we needed pulse support in 10.4, the
LTS version, so we wouldn't be stuck with phonon for ages until the next
LTS release. Ignored, I just went my own way. It works for me, all is
good. 

> > Heck, it's
> > practically Windows 95-98-XT.
> 
> And that is meant to be a /good/ thing, is it?

The average Windows user (as opposed to computer user, who can figure
out most anything) gets culture shock the first time they see Gnome. I
don't like the way it handles, don't like it's menu system. The last
Windows I used was 3.1 under Wabi, on top of my Caldera install.  But,
thankfully we have choices. It's all good. Ric


-- 
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"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
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