how to remove bind?

Ric Moore wayward4now at gmail.com
Sat Jun 4 05:56:47 UTC 2011


On Sat, 2011-06-04 at 09:33 +1000, Nick Edwards wrote:
> 
> 
> On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 4:52 AM, Ric Moore <wayward4now at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>         On Fri, 2011-06-03 at 16:36 +1000, Nick Edwards wrote:
>         
>         >
>         >         It's just really dangerous if you don't know what
>         you're
>         >         doing.  I've been using Linux about 20 years, and
>         I've *never*
>         >         used such a feature.  And I *do* know what I'm doing
>         (if you
>         >         believe that PhD (in computer science) means
>         anything).
>         
>         
>         
>         > It not dangerous but laughable that you make this comment,
>         when your
>         > use of linux seems confined to one vendor, if you HAD have
>         actual
>         > experience with other distros you would realize how stupid
>         this and
>         > one of your other statements are
>         
>         
>         When I blew up my machine to hell and gone, using -force on a
>         package,
>         it was with rpm and Fedora. So I would say +1 for not being
>         stupid. 
>         
>         
> 
> It is perfectly safe using force and nodeps *IF* you do your homework
> and understand the consequences
> of that package, what do you think I've been doing for years for those
> RHEL servers :) and well bugger me, not a one has failed, burped,
> farted, or fell over drunk.

That is true. No doubt. But, you can also do some incredible damage. So,
depending on who utilizes the -force and -nodeps options, like Mr and
Mrs Joe Lunchbucket, really bad things can happen. And, Linux stands in
that crux of the movement where it's not a bad thing for the Great
Unwashed to use our OS, and we can be mindful of "them". 

Again, true that those arguments can be used and used for good things. I
should mention there were occasions that I knew I had to use either
nodeps or force, and I knew that if I decided wrongly I'd become hosed.
One time, I got bit. Was Linux wrong? Heck no, I told it what to do and
it gleefully did it. It was the last thing to work, until I completely
re-installed again, too. My boneheaded mistake, no doubt. 

I put my hands on a Mac notebook today for the first time. There is no
"terminal" app on it!! How novice can a user be considered?? No command
line whatsoever and a million people pay for that. And we, on the other
extreme, can use "force" on an rpm command line and load something come
hell what may. What I'd like to see is the feature Xine uses, where you
can chose your level of expertise, from "novice" to "Master of The Known
Universe". The higher you go, the more buttons there are to press.

:) Ric







-- 
My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
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