OT: alternative to Gmail?

[Gilles Gravier]

Hi!

On 14/02/2011 07:13, Ioannis Vranos wrote:
> On Sun, 2011-02-13 at 23:52 -0600, Default User wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 23:24, Ioannis Vranos
>> <cppdeveloper at ontelecoms.gr> wrote:
>>         
>>         On Sun, 2011-02-13 at 23:14 -0600, Default User wrote:
>>         > I am looking for an alternative to Gmail.  I find it
>>         surprisingly
>>         > difficult and temperamental (for example, I can't just sort
>>         the inbox
>>         > messages by sender).  And Google seems to be getting way
>>         "too big for
>>         > its britches".  The "last straw" was that they are
>>         apparently trying
>>         > to force users of Gmail to have a cell phone and to use that
>>         just to
>>         > use Gmail (2-factor authentication).
>>         >
>>         > That is unacceptable (and also some other words not fit for
>>         polite
>>         > company).  No, I will NOT use an email service that requires
>>         a cell
>>         > phone to send/receive email, and I sure wouldn't give a
>>         phone number
>>         > to Google.
>>         >
>>         > So, any suggestions for alternative email services?
>>         
>>         
>>         
>>         Do you need it to be web based?
>>         
>>         
>>         No, it doesn't have to be, but if it is, I won't have to set
>>         up / administer a separate email application program.  OTOH, I
>>         do fret about my email being stored "out there in the
>>         cloud" . . . 
>
> Previously someone said that the mobile phone thing in GMail is
> optional.
>
> Additionally GMail provides the ability to retrieve your emails in an
> email application via POP3 and IMAP.
>
> If you do not like any of these, another popular web email service is
> hotmail.
>
>


Actually, it seems more like a troll to me, the original post.

Google doesn't force you to have a phone. They allow that as an
ADDITIONAL SECURITY FEATURE.

You can always use Google Mail with normal old-fashion login/password,
which somebody can see you type over your shoulder, and that works fine.
But if you want the extra secure version, rather than them FORCING YOU
to buy an RSA Security token, they ALLOW you to use any Android phone
(you know, the phone OS that is sold more than iOS these days) to set up
2-factor authentication.

And you don't HAVE to give them your cell phone number. It is only used
(should you want that as an option) for password recovery.

Please (OP) document yourself before posting something...

Gilles.