Autorun is VERY bad
Robert Holtzman
holtzm at cox.net
Wed Feb 9 02:57:46 UTC 2011
On Tue, Feb 08, 2011 at 05:33:57PM +0100, Oliver Grawert wrote:
> hi,
> Am Dienstag, den 08.02.2011, 15:46 +0000 schrieb devicerandom:
>
> On 08/02/11 14:27, Oliver Grawert wrote:
> > hi,
> > Am Dienstag, den 08.02.2011, 14:04 +0000 schrieb devicerandom:
> >> You haven't RTFM on RTFM yourself, did you? :)
> >> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#rtfm
> > what makes you assume that ? i usually read a thread before answering,
> > have often enough come across that document and i dont find an ESR
> > document particulary helpful as an excercise of the ubuntu code of
> > conduct ... nor do i find it any kind of appropriate for this ML
>
> It is a document that sums up what is a *general* code of conduct which
> is shared by tons of technical open source mailing lists/IRC
> channels/web forums and the like.
>
> while that might be true for other MLs, http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct
> is the one that counts on ubuntu lists, *not* some random ESR document.
>
>
> You are free to reject it, but by doing so you ignore essential
> fundaments of the hacker culture (which, by the way, allowed Ubuntu to
> be what it is) and you're out of place in the vast majority of such
> forums. Good luck with that.
>
> i'm not talking about "such forums" i'm only talking about this mailing list.
>
>
> Well, I'd say that teaching people how to fish is much, much better than
> giving them fish, so I'd say that *I am* the one helping out and giving
> proper support, not you.
>
> how does your attitude help anyone how to fish ? *how* did you give any help
> *at all* ?
> the *single one person* that helped in this thread was "Chhatoi Pritam Baral"
> pointing to the proper configuration tool (kudos for that), all other posts are
> either discussing your habit or general security issues.
>
>
>
> > several people (one of the ML admins being among them) have told you it
> > is not appropriate, how about just accepting it ?
>
> How about understand why it could be appropriate and why it is felt
> appropriate by the vast majority of the open source/hacker culture? You
> are still free to disagree, but it's you that is walking backwards, not us.
>
> again, i'm not talking about the vast majority of MLs or forums, i'm talking
> about *this list*, there is a reason why ubuntu differs from other lists and is
> praised for its userfriendly way of supporting people, did you think about that?
>
> one thing that might help you is to try to imagine the person behind that mail
> you help is your mother (or grandmother) who sits in front of you in real life
> on the other side of the table, then think about if you would shout RTFM in her
> face ...
This is one of the most arrogant, infuriating posts I've read in a long
time.
--
Bob Holtzman
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"If you think you're getting free lunch,
check the price of the beer"
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