Newbie query: Ubuntu vs openSUSE
wayward4now at gmail.com
Sat Dec 24 08:13:06 UTC 2011
On 12/23/2011 10:22 PM, Craig White wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 20:47 -0500, Ric Moore wrote:
>> On 12/23/2011 05:15 PM, Liam Proven wrote:
>>> So, yes, the gap has narrowed, but still, even today, the Debian
>>> family don't have the admin tools that SUSE boasts, and the RPM-based
>>> distros don't have the elegant, mature package-management system that
>>> the Debian family do.
>> Caldera had the good sense to just use rpm as Red Hat did, since they
>> were a red-haired step child, so to speak. Ole Donnie caught hell, on
>> the Caldera list, when Caldera had about their 3rd or 4th release and
>> about a week or so later Red Hat came out with a new and improved
>> version of RPM that nailed ours. It's not always roses when a distro
>> competes with another. Ric
> that's bs - Red Hat always makes their code available upstream and thus
> any Linux can use code from any of their packages including the package
> manager itself... the source was always available to everyone.
Of course it is. We just happened to notice that the completely
re-worked and updated version of rpm appeared just a week or so after we
all had just updated our Caldera installs, and our old version of rpm
was not compatible at all with the new version, which was a completely
reworked version. I'm sure that was a coincidence... <cackles>
> There are always issues with the timing of releases especially
> considering that updated packages should get some amount of testing
> before making it into a 'stable' product.
Well sure, if Caldera KNEW that rpm was being completely re-worked then
they would have held off their release. They were never hide-bound to a
release date. They were small enough to do the "right thing". Liam was
probably there at that time. We got blindsided. "All's fair...."
My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
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