Newbie query: Ubuntu vs openSUSE

[Johnny]

If you use anything but Ubuntu. Most of the other live CD I have to 
disable ipv6 thing to get on the Internet with Firefox. I have 3 PCs and 
have do do it on all. I did write this but if you try something other 
that Ubuntu 11.10 you might want it handy. You can do a config:about and 
disable there but that only helps Firefox. I like unity. But I use 
unity2 better than Gnome. Just me.
Merry Christmas and God Bless Johnny3 65+++

On 12/15/2011 05:56 PM, Greg Pelly wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have HBase installed on a a Ubuntu 11.04 box. It's having problems and
> they are due to the fact that ipv6 is enabled, the advice is to disable
> ipv6. The method of disabling appears to be adding the following three
> lines to sysctl.conf:
>
> ***net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6 = 1*
> *net.ipv6.conf.default.disable_ipv6 = 1*
> *net.ipv6.conf.lo.disable_ipv6 = 1
>
>

Easier way to do this is to pass the kernel a parameter to disable ipv6 
on bootup. To do that, edit /etc/default/grub and add 
"ipv6.disable_ipv6=1" on the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT line so it looks 
similar to the following:

GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash ipv6.disable_ipv6=1"

Save the file and then run "sudo update-grub" to update grub.cfg and 
generate new initramfs images. Reboot and ipv6 should be disabled on all 
interfaces.


On 12/23/2011 11:07 AM, Liam Proven wrote:
> On 23 December 2011 11:35, Rameshwar Kr. Sharma
> <mathsrealworld at gmail.com>  wrote:
>> On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Jamie Paul Griffin
>> <jamie at kontrol.kode5.net>  wrote:
>>
>>> Having tried OpenSuse I can say that Ubuntu is certainly the better choice, in my opinion. The package manager is superior and overall finish and quality is better. I remember I came across an article comparing the two where the author described YAST as "a pig" which made me laugh; and i'm afraid that based on my experiences at that time, I have to agree.
>> Okay I don't know, may be Yast is the package manager, but **how**
>> package manager of Ubuntu is better, can you please explain me a
>> little?
> SUSE is an old distro, dating back 15y or so. It predates home
> broadband. Its original unique selling point was that it came with all
> the software you would ever need, on multiple CDs, then later on many
> CDs + a DVD, then on multiple DVDs.
>
> It also has good, rich, complete system admin tools, notably YAST.
> YAST stands for Yet Another Setup Tool and was originally the
> installer. Now, YAST2 is also the main point of control for your
> system - adding and removing users, configuring hardware, adding and
> removing software, updating, etc.
>
> It is much more than just a package management system.
>
> SUSE was for a long time based on KDE. Later it adopted GNOME too and
> the company bought Ximian, one of the main GNOME software development
> houses. It also supports lots of other distros.
>
> SUSE is now owned by Novell, which in turn is owned by Attachmate, 2
> big American companies. It has a strong corporate focus with expensive
> corporate versions with support contracts.
>
> SUSE has signed a pact with  Microsoft which means it can use the
> Windows-like KDE desktop without fear of being sued for patent
> infringement, so since the announcement of GNOME 3, SUSE announced it
> was returning to its KDE-centric roots.
>
> SUSE is based on RPM, the Red Hat Package Manager. It is easy to use
> but does not feature automatic dependency resolution - when you
> install a piece of software, it is up to you to install all the
> extras, the libraries and things, that it depends on. YAST tries to
> automate this for you but in my experience it is patchy and often
> fails.
>
> It's good, but it's big, complex and relatively slow, in my personal
> experience. It hearkens back to the days of the 1990s when you had
> thousands of choices and decisions to make.
>
> Ubuntu is much newer. It is about 7y old. It's based on Debian, which
> is the hacker's distro of choice, but polished and made much easier.
> Debian is even older than SUSE but it is notoriously complicated and
> unfriendly, although it is much better these days. Ubuntu is Debian
> simplified for non-techies.
>
> Ubuntu is small and simple. It comes with 1 best choice of app for all
> the main tasks - 1 office suite, 1 media player, 1 web browser, etc.
> SUSE offers dozens of alternatives. Ubuntu has the alternatives too
> but it doesn't ask you - the default install comes on just 1 CD and
> contains 1 example of each app. SUSE asks you to choose, which is
> harder if you don't know enough to decide.
>
> Ubuntu uses the Debian packaging system, DEB and APT-GET. This is
> unarguably the best and most sophisticated system for any Unix and is
> widely copied but never bettered. It pioneered automatic recursive
> depenency resolution, meaning that APT figures out all the libraries
> and things all your programs need and installs *and updates* them for
> you automatically. SUSE tries to replicate this with YAST but it's not
> as good. Red Hat tries with YUM, Mandriva with URPMI, but none are
> even close, IMHO. Apt-get wins, hands down. The theory is that once
> you install you need never reinstall as Apt will update your whole OS
> for you - indefinitely.
>
> Ubuntu offers few choices of desktop or tools, but everything is there
> in its online repositories if you want to experiment as you learn
> more.
>
> Ubuntu is based on GNOME and now the in-house developed Unity shell on
> top of GNOME. Some people don't like GNOME. Some favour KDE, or other
> alternatives such as Xfce or LXDE. Canonical, Ubuntu's backers,
> actively encourage these communities to create their own "remixes" of
> Ubuntu with different desktops and sets of apps. For instance,
> Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Lubuntu and so on. Some - the ones with "-buntu" in
> their name - are officially sanctioned, but the main "real" Ubuntu is
> the one with nothing else on its name. Some of the remixes are pretty
> good but the most polished and complete, and the best-supported, is
> real Ubuntu. Some 3rd party tools and apps may not work on the
> remixes. For the best experience, stay with the "real thing".
>
> In summary:
>
> Ubuntu: relatively small, modern, simple, streamlined. Very easy and polished.
>
> SUSE: big, very capable, quite complex, many many options. Good admin
> tools but software management inferior, as is that of all the
> RPM-based distros.
>