<OT> ubuntu bad press

Ric Moore wayward4now at gmail.com
Thu Aug 25 20:43:35 UTC 2011

On Thu, 2011-08-25 at 13:54 +0200, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:
> 2011/8/25 Ric Moore <wayward4now at gmail.com>:
> > Seems Ubuntu is getting kicked around in the online media.
> > http://www.technewsworld.com/story/72773.html
> >
> > One thing I have to agree with is that when you dink with your userbase,
> > it's a recipe for disaster. My peeve is that the LTS version isn't
> > getting package upgrades to some key applications. Sun Java is falling
> > way behind in release upgrades. The standard Firefox package for 10.4
> > has mold on it. I don't want to rely on personal repo's in order to get
> > a recent package... I'd feel more secure if they were vetted into the
> > Universe, or whatever. Just' saying I'm having a bad hair day, finding
> > that I have to go outside the usual channels to get something updated.
> >
> > Myself, I'd rather see what we have be more rock solid and up to date
> > than to turn my desktop into a wannabe fondle slab. Canonical is really
> > going out on a limb with un-asked for improvements. People left Fedora
> > in droves to come here, after RedHat went past the point of audience
> > participation. I pray that Uncle Mark keeps his eyes on this
> > intellectual child of his. I love what Ubuntu has stood for.
> > My two cents, Ric
> Maybe just Ubuntu is not for you? Not that I know, but it sounds to me
> that you rather need something like Arch Linux or something like that.
> I haven't tried it myself, but it feels like it's time soon…
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/
> As I said, I didn't try it myself, so I don't know if it's crap or not.

My beef isn't that 10.04 isn't being upgraded to beta release of
packages, it is that packages like java and firefox are older than sin
and could be upgraded safely in a stable manner to make the overall LTS
version more usable, without going into beta testing "grab both
buttcheeks and hang on" mode . THAT is what I wrote. That is all that I
wrote. Is that not the truth? Or, should some admin install the LTS
version and then go on a witch hunt for repos??  Gimmie a break. I
happen to love the Ubuntu that Mark envisioned. I'd like it to remain on
course. No sin there, right? 

The fact remains that some people have up and left and told us about it.
Ergo, some have up and left and said nothing. Then that article came
out. It all is worth ~noting~, and it may be cause to reflect if we're
doing the right thing by the average Joe Lunchbucket user, or the system
Admin who wants to install Linux as the default for a small/large office
setting. Are we there still? I see no crime in expecting packages to be
upgraded to the latest STABLE version of an application, especially when
they are as widely popular as Java and Firefox and possibly Libre
Office, ...if that is stable yet. I don't think that is too much to
expect from an LTS version. Again, just my two cents. Ric

My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
Linux user# 44256 

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