[Advise] Natty upgrades

[chris]

On Thu, 2011-04-28 at 19:40 -0700, NoOp wrote:
> I've been watching:
> 
> <http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?s=199e2b141d171a69114e1b40ca9ced06&f=331>
> and refresh the page every few minutes...
> 
> and the borken posts are rolling every few minutes (as expected).
> 
> My advise concerning upgrading to Natty for less exerienced users on
> this list is same as always:
> 
> 1. Wait at least a month before you upgrade.
> 2. Check & read the release notes.[1]
> 3. If you want to play with it try with a liveCD & if that seems to work
> install into it's own partition. Better yet use a test machine if you
> have one.
> 4. If you want to see how the upgrade will go, install 10.10 on a test
> machine & upgrade that one first. This will avoid the test install
> borking your existing grub et al & this can be pain if you don't know
> your way around troubleshooting grub2 issues.
> 5. Watch:
> <http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?s=199e2b141d171a69114e1b40ca9ced06&f=331>
> [Threads in Forum : General Help]
> Refresh the page every few minutes & watch the 11.04 questions grow...
> 
> I've been running Natty 11.04 on 64bit laptop partition and 32bit test
> machine since Alpha. However I won't attempt any upgrades from 10.10 on
> *any* production/standard use machines for at least 1 month. Why? Simple
> (IMO); Natty, like previous Ubuntu 6 month cycle releases simply aren't
> ready when released. I'll not bother to try to explain why I think that,
> but the archives of this list will pretty much back my opinion. That
> opinion is without comment on the Unity interface/DE fiasco.
> 
> Bottom line (and especially for new Ubuntu users) I do not recommend
> upgrading to Natty when provided the (IMO really, really, really, stupid
> update-manager upgrade to Natty popup window[2]) that all 10.10 users
> will receive. Just *don't* do it.
>   Wait for awhile, let the bugs settle in/get resolved, and *then*
> upgrade. Unless you know what you are doing, how to get out of borked
> upgrades/grub errors/troubleshoot video issues, et al, just save
> yourselves some aggrevation and let things settle down before attempting
> an upgrade. On the other hand, if you are keen to install/upgrade to the
> latest *and* are willing (notice the *and*) file bug reports, help
> troubleshoot issues, then have at it. If not wait.
> 
> [1]
> Ironic that you have to specifically *search* for the release notes on
> ubuntu.com. That's just plain stupid.
> No release notes here:
> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
> Nor here:
> http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
> Nor here:
> http://www.ubuntu.com/support
> [It appears that Ubuntu have decided to 'Unity' the 11.04 pages just
> like the Unity DE. All will be wonderfull, just download, install & be
> happy...]
> Only here:
> http://www.ubuntu.com/search/google-appliance/natty%20release%20notes
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/ReleaseNotes
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
> and even then you need to find in that page:
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NattyUpgrades
> 
> [2]
> <http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/dist-upgrader-all/current/ReleaseAnnouncement.html?lang=en_US>
> 
> 

NoOp, +1 
cheers the kiwi