Oh, please, please, COME ON Ubuntu development people! <OT>

[Ric Moore]

On Thu, 2011-04-21 at 08:18 -0700, Smoot Carl-Mitchell wrote: 
> On Thu, 2011-04-21 at 12:04 +0200, Joep L. Blom wrote:
> 
> > > 
> > The story is then that Olson was so pissed off that he put the PDP-11 
> > within 9 months in the market and when you opened the 2 boxes you didn't 
> > find much difference.
> > I assume other computer veterans on this list can give better details on 
> > this.
> > Any way on this site > http://gunkies.org/wiki/PDP-11
> > the PDP11-20 is said to be set into the market in 1970 and ran several 
> > OS. Unix (DEC name: Ultrix) was one of them.
> 
> Ultrix did not appear until after the AT&T breakup in the early 80s.
> Ultrix was a derivative of the BSD Unix work and ran on the VAX
> hardware. I think you could get a PDP-11 version, but I am not sure
> about that.  In the 70s Unix was put out under various research
> "Editions".  The last one from AT&T before the commercial System 3 was
> Edition 7.  I still have a paper manual for Edition 7 lying around the
> house somewhere.  Remarkably, the basic OS API and filesystem
> permissions and structure is very similar to any modern Unix or Linux
> system.  Any competent sysadmin or programmer familiar with Linux would
> feel right at home on Edition 7.

I had a Federal Surplus'd Unisys 5000/90 that I bought for $301. Took a
moving van to get it home and when the land-lady spotted the ramp from
the moving van connected to the front porch, she told me she had decided
to sell the place. 

After I found more suitable digs (what used to be a bank) to move into
and had a power panel capable of handling that beast, sucking 60 amps @
220V when it booted, I loaded the tapes and checked it out. Sure enough,
it wasn't much different from my Caldera install there. I even managed
to get the two crudely connected via ethernet. Damn thing had no
compiler with it. So much for the days of proprietary Big Iron. Unisys
told me that they would sell me a site license for around 9 grand.
Today, I'd try like hell to get Linux on it, if there was still support
for the 60820. 

Ergo, I've not been hugely in favor of all the changes /etc has been put
through in the last few years. I used to be soooo simple.  But, I was
royally jerked when pam came along, too. <chuckles> Ric

-- 
My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
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