Oh, please, please, COME ON Ubuntu development people!

[chris]

On Thu, 2011-04-21 at 21:34 +0100, Liam Proven wrote:
> 
> On 21 Apr 2011 21:17, "chris" <chevhq at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 2011-04-21 at 17:16 +0100, Liam Proven wrote:
> > > On 21 April 2011 17:04, Jim Byrnes <jf_byrnes at comcast.net> wrote:
> > > > Liam Proven wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Well, Sounder /was/ the place - but since it's gone now, there
> is a
> > > >> new, non-Ubuntu Sounder list. It's here:
> > > >> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 3:54 AM, John McCabe-Dansted
> > > >> http://groups.google.com/group/bikeshed
> > > >>
> > > >> Do please come and join us there!
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > I've seen many references to Sounder but never went there. What
> exactly was
> > > > Sounder and why was it shutdown?
> > >
> > > Ubuntu Sounder was the place for non-support-related discussion
> about
> > > Ubuntu and Linux in general.
> > >
> > > After a recent thread expressing dissatisfaction with the
> forthcoming
> > > Unity desktop GUI, I suggested that Linux Mint might be a suitable
> > > alternative for those who did not want Unity but liked Ubuntu and
> > > classic Gnome.
> > >
> > <snip>
> >
> > It seemed to me that it was a quite constructive criticism of unity
> that
> > triggered the decision to close sounder.
> >
> > I suspect the political discussion that followed that criticism may
> have
> > been used as an excuse.
> >
> > Just a personal opinion.
> 
> Ah, well, you might be right there. It's an interesting thought.
> 
> Any discussion of Israel & related matters does rouse extremely strong
> feelings. It's one of the prime causes of cases of Godwin's Law. I
> thought it was that, but you might well be right...
> 
> - Liam P.
> 

I had some similar issues with Cannonical over their removal of the
wvdial packages from the cd distro's.  There justification was that the
bulk of the worlds users were on broadband.  Not true in NZ, nor many
third world countries.

Although in NZ most urban areas have dsl, the country areas a woefuly
provided for, as I believe is the case in parts of Aussie (NZ largest
Island); and bits of the USA.

When I questioned Cannonical about it I was told to download the meta
package.  With out a means of connecting to the net.  :-)

Yes...........