ubuntu-users Digest, Vol 74, Issue 247

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Virtual Box versions (Gilles Gravier)
   2. Apple Hotkeys not working after latest Updates
      (immo.wille at id.uzh.ch)
   3. Re: Ubuntu 10.10 Network problems (shrey sinha)
   4. Re: DVD downloads? (Dave Howorth)
   5. Re: DVD downloads? (Jacob Mansfield)
   6. Re: sending mail on ubuntu through sendmail (Basil Chupin)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 11:01:25 +0200
From: Gilles Gravier <ggravier at fsfe.org>
Subject: Re: Virtual Box versions
To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
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On 26/10/2010 10:39, Jordon Bedwell wrote:
> On 10/26/2010 03:07 AM, Gilles Gravier wrote:
>> > What Jordon meant was "thank you for providing the answer".
> I'm sorry, you are not me and you are not associated with me, so please,
> do not insert words for me. That is /not/ what I meant, it will /never/
> be what I meant and /could not possibly be interpreted/ as what I meant.
>

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sarcasm



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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 11:04:17 +0200
From: immo.wille at id.uzh.ch
Subject: Apple Hotkeys not working after latest Updates
To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 14:53:14 +0530
From: shrey sinha <shreysinha1 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Ubuntu 10.10 Network problems
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Sorry, My apologies I didn't read the mail carefully

I would suggest you to use WICD it's available in the synaptic pkg manager.
The default "*network-manager-genome*" is too buggy.

first install WICD and then uninstall the network-manager-genome.



On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby <
mihamina at gulfsat.mg> wrote:

> > shreysinha1 at gmail.com :
> >Your network card is being detected or not ??
>
> Well if there is traffic sometimes, we may guess it is at least
> partially detected.
>
>
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 11:21:03 +0100
From: Dave Howorth <dhoworth at mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: DVD downloads?
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I wrote:
> Given all my uncertainty and the fact that it's Friday afternoon, I'm
> now inclined to just burn the CD and settle down to read War and Peace
> this weekend while my home PC downloads all the packages I want.

I thought I'd entertain you all by letting you know what happened :(

Last weekend I finally got around to trying to install from the CD but
failed miserably.

It got as far as suggesting a disk partition scheme. It proposed putting
ubuntu alongside a previous opensuse, but I have to say I couldn't
understand exactly what it was suggesting from the cartoon diagram it
showed me. So I selected expert in the hope of getting some proper
textual description of what it was going to do.

What it was suggesting was obviously wrong for my needs, so I started
tweaking the scheme but rapidly ran into trouble when I discovered that
the installer doesn't support LVM!

What? We're in the 21st century! *EVERY* system should be installed
using LVM, IMHO. (not for the root partition, I hasten to add)

Anyway, I googled a bit, discovered the alternate CD, downloaded that
and burned it and tried again. That was better, at least I got to agree
with it about what I wanted.

But then it came to installing software and part way through the
proceedings it said there was a problem installing the software and I
could continue or abort. No description of what the problem was; no
instruction on how to find out; no help button; no helpful URL. Just
continue or abort. So I aborted.

So I googled again and I gather that there's some arcane sequence of
keystrokes that would have taken me to a command line where I could have
delved in the logs to see the actual error message. Except by then of
course, I'd aborted so I could boot the known working opensuse system
with a browser :(

At that point I just gave up, switched the TV on and opened a bottle of
wine.


So now I'm starting to think about it again.
- I could try again and see if I can figure out what the error is and
how to fix it.
- I could burn a DVD and see how that does (the mirrorservice.org
version to be 10.04 rather than 10.04.1 despite what it says - does
anybody know whether there is a 10.04.1 version?)

BTW, thanks to all who suggested them but I'm not interested in 10.10
and I'm not interested in the standard CDs.

Cheers, Dave



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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 11:31:21 +0100
From: Jacob Mansfield <cyberjacob at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: DVD downloads?
To: "Ubuntu user technical support,	not for general discussions"
	<ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
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ubuntu uses the ext4 file system by default
Jacob Mansfield
Programmer



On 26 October 2010 11:21, Dave Howorth <dhoworth at mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk> wrote:

> I wrote:
> > Given all my uncertainty and the fact that it's Friday afternoon, I'm
> > now inclined to just burn the CD and settle down to read War and Peace
> > this weekend while my home PC downloads all the packages I want.
>
> I thought I'd entertain you all by letting you know what happened :(
>
> Last weekend I finally got around to trying to install from the CD but
> failed miserably.
>
> It got as far as suggesting a disk partition scheme. It proposed putting
> ubuntu alongside a previous opensuse, but I have to say I couldn't
> understand exactly what it was suggesting from the cartoon diagram it
> showed me. So I selected expert in the hope of getting some proper
> textual description of what it was going to do.
>
> What it was suggesting was obviously wrong for my needs, so I started
> tweaking the scheme but rapidly ran into trouble when I discovered that
> the installer doesn't support LVM!
>
> What? We're in the 21st century! *EVERY* system should be installed
> using LVM, IMHO. (not for the root partition, I hasten to add)
>
> Anyway, I googled a bit, discovered the alternate CD, downloaded that
> and burned it and tried again. That was better, at least I got to agree
> with it about what I wanted.
>
> But then it came to installing software and part way through the
> proceedings it said there was a problem installing the software and I
> could continue or abort. No description of what the problem was; no
> instruction on how to find out; no help button; no helpful URL. Just
> continue or abort. So I aborted.
>
> So I googled again and I gather that there's some arcane sequence of
> keystrokes that would have taken me to a command line where I could have
> delved in the logs to see the actual error message. Except by then of
> course, I'd aborted so I could boot the known working opensuse system
> with a browser :(
>
> At that point I just gave up, switched the TV on and opened a bottle of
> wine.
>
>
> So now I'm starting to think about it again.
> - I could try again and see if I can figure out what the error is and
> how to fix it.
> - I could burn a DVD and see how that does (the mirrorservice.org
> version to be 10.04 rather than 10.04.1 despite what it says - does
> anybody know whether there is a 10.04.1 version?)
>
> BTW, thanks to all who suggested them but I'm not interested in 10.10
> and I'm not interested in the standard CDs.
>
> Cheers, Dave
>
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 21:33:29 +1100
From: Basil Chupin <blchupin at iinet.net.au>
Subject: Re: sending mail on ubuntu through sendmail
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On 26/10/2010 17:44, Christopher Chan wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 26, 2010 01:27 PM, Basil Chupin wrote:
>
>    
>> Alright, so calcpage hijacked the original thread, but since I deleted
>> the original "Sending Mail...." by Stephen the thread stayed with calcpage.
>>      
> Ah, that explains it I guess. PEBKAC.>:p
>
>
>    
>> Nooooo....don't tell that YOUR mailer threads by Subject rather than
>> message IDs? Better have it attended to.
>>      
> Sigh. If you know how to do that for thunderbird, I'll take back the
> PEBKAC. It keeps doing that will all subjectless posts and only
> subjectless posts.
>
> /me starts pounding thunderbird with big metal spiked club.
>    

It just occurred to me that you are most likely one of those people who 
wants to see the "full picture" so I put together the full thread which 
is the subject of this/these exchanges. I didn't realise that using 
Screenshot I wasn't able to scroll down/up when selecting the area to 
include in the screenshot so I had to make 2 screenshots to accomplish 
what I wanted. These are:

  http://picpaste.com/threading-D-1-YxQIphII.png

http://picpaste.com/threading-D-2-ALyv1zh4.png


Now you have the compleat *thread* - and now you can find those 
subjectless posts that you were talking about.

And, go ahead and compare the above, item by item, with the archives for 
ubuntu.

BC

-- 
"My sister's expecting a baby, and I don't know if I am going to be an uncle or an aunt."
          Chuck Nevitt




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