ubuntu-users Digest, Vol 74, Issue 140

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>    1. Re: Help upgrading to 10.10 (Alan Pope)
>    2. Re: Help upgrading to 10.10 (Jordon Bedwell)
>    3. Re: Cloning a disk pt2 (Jacob Mansfield)
>    4. Re: Password (NoOp)
>    5. Re: Cloning a disk pt2 (Ash Wyllie)
>    6. Re: Help upgrading to 10.10 (Cybe R. Wizard)
>    7. Re: Cloning a disk pt2 (Luis Paulo)
>    8. Re: Cloning a disk pt2 (Luis Paulo)
>    9. Re: Help upgrading to 10.10 (Ric Moore)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 16:51:33 +0100
> From: Alan Pope <alan at popey.com>
> Subject: Re: Help upgrading to 10.10
> To: "Ubuntu user technical support,	not for general discussions"
> 	<ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
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> On 14 October 2010 16:25, Cybe R. Wizard <cyber_wizard at mindspring.com>
> wrote:
>> This website?
>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MaverickUpgrades
>>
>> If so, the whole method described is unwieldy. ?It refers to
>> System>Administration>Software Sources
>> when that step can be completed right from
>> System>Administration>Update Manager
>> and the, "Settings," button.
>>
>> Yep, description bug on the site, I'd say.
>>
>
> Ok, great. Luckily it's a wiki page so anyone can dive right in and
> get it sorted. Volunteers sought.
>
>> BTW, "joe sixpack?" ?Isn't that a little insulting?
>
> Not that I was aware. I meant it as a colloquial term for a 'normal',
> i.e. non-geek.
>
>> ?(that is, if, by
>> sixpack, one refers to alcoholic beverages (not everybody drinks
>> alcohol)) And, if it refers to a strong abdomen, does it really
>> represent the great untutored mass of humanity? I think, "no."
>>
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Q._Public
>
> I consider myself informed.
>
>> Maybe, "Joe Average," or, "Joe Normal," or, "Joe regular," might be
>> better and not tend to identify /you/, the 'speaker,' as a (US) Tea
>> Party member.
>
> I'm British, for the record.
>
> Al.
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 11:03:10 -0500
> From: Jordon Bedwell <jordon at envygeeks.com>
> Subject: Re: Help upgrading to 10.10
> To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions"
> 	<ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID: <1287072190.8189.77.camel at envygeeks>
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> On Thu, 2010-10-14 at 16:23 +0100, Alan Pope wrote:
>> On 14 October 2010 16:14, Tom H <tomh0665 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Google's just as likely to point you to wiki.ubuntu.com as it is to
>> > point you to help.ubuntu.com.
>> >
>>
>> I have no knowledge of the internals of how Google decides what to go
>> for. Most 'documentation' resides on doc.ubuntu.com and
>> help.ubuntu.com so I'd /imagine/ that's where people link to
>> (hopefully) so that should push those up the ranks. Indeed googling
>> for ubuntu and upgrade gives only one link to wiki. but two for help.
>> and one for ubuntu.com.
>>
>> Not trying to argue, just testing the theory.
>
> I've noticed that google also places links based on clicks and
> relevancy.  There is some kind of bad ass algorithm going on at Google
> and we must get a hold of it.  That aside, doc.ubuntu.com should be
> converted to help.ubuntu.com or doc masters should start migrating
> redundant articles over.
>
> I don't know what the logic was behind it, but I assume it might have
> been to separate user input from official output but at this point in
> the game with everything being so outdated in most places, it just
> throws people off.  Ubuntu changes so rapidly their weak point has
> become documentation, because they can't focus some development time on
> it.  What needs to be done is set official doc masters, start migrating
> and then have users start building real world knowledge bases with
> dedicated doc masters just reviewing, testing and correcting.
>
>
> Case in point:  Old grub articles that don't apply any more (for the
> most part) then there are old encryption articles that just explain it
> wrong, down the latter we go?
>
> Anyways, I think you're both right, because there are times where I end
> up with help.ubuntu.com doc.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com in a row one
> after the other, then there are times where it's all confusing and the
> wiki says "piss off will ya" but researching, I get help :/
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 17:04:46 +0100
> From: Jacob Mansfield <cyberjacob at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Cloning a disk pt2
> To: "Ubuntu user technical support,	not for general discussions"
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> the drive isn't mounted, depending on how the drive is connected you need a
> command similar to
> mount /dev/sdb1 /media/mydisk
> Jacob Mansfield
> Programmer
>
>
>
> On 14 October 2010 17:37, Ash Wyllie <ashw at lr.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> I've booted form my USB stick.
>>
>> I have the hardware, the new disk and the USB to SATA converter. I can see
>> the
>> drive and can modify it using GParted.
>>
>> The original straight from Dell drive is still in the laptop. GParted can
>> see
>> it.
>>
>> But I can't copy it. GParted information gives a warning
>>
>>            "Unable to find mount point"
>>
>>            "Unable to read the contents of this file system!"
>>
>> I have run backups, but I am not confident that I could restore what I
>> have
>> from
>> the backups. (one backup shows 4.21GB on the backup partition, the other
>> 19.7GB.
>> One backup program gave a whole bunch of permission warnings...).
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>                         -ash
>>                         Elect Cthulhu!
>>                         Vote the greater evil.
>>
>>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 09:20:42 -0700
> From: NoOp <glgxg at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: Password
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> On 10/13/2010 08:54 PM, Jitender Kiraria wrote:
>> I have forgotten Password to my Ubuntu 8.0 system........Is there any way
>> to
>> login or restore the password.......Please Someone help me !!!!!!!!!!!
>> Otherwise I will have to format the system........Thanx.......
>>
>>
>
> <http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword>
> <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword>
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> Message: 5
> Date: 14 Oct 2010 12:28:24 -0500
> From: "Ash Wyllie" <ashw at lr.net>
> Subject: Re: Cloning a disk pt2
> To: "Ubuntu user technical support,	not for general discussions"
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> Jacob Mansfield opined
>
>
>
>>the drive isn't mounted, depending on how the drive is connected you need a
>>command similar to
>>mount /dev/sdb1 /media/mydisk
>>Jacob Mansfield
>>Programmer
>
> When it is mounted I get the "Unable to read the contents..." message
>
>
>>On 14 October 2010 17:37, Ash Wyllie <ashw at lr.net> wrote:
>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I've booted form my USB stick.
>>>
>>> I have the hardware, the new disk and the USB to SATA converter. I can
>>> see
>>> the
>>> drive and can modify it using GParted.
>>>
>>> The original straight from Dell drive is still in the laptop. GParted can
>>> see
>>> it.
>>>
>>> But I can't copy it. GParted information gives a warning
>>>
>>>            "Unable to find mount point"
>>>
>>>            "Unable to read the contents of this file system!"
>>>
>>> I have run backups, but I am not confident that I could restore what I
>>> have
>>> from the backups. (one backup shows 4.21GB on the backup partition, the
>>> other
>>> 19.7GB.
>>> One backup program gave a whole bunch of permission warnings...).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                         -ash
>>>                         Elect Cthulhu!
>>>                         Vote the greater evil.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>the drive isn't mounted, depending on how the drive is connected you
>> need
>>a command similar to<br>mount /dev/sdb1 /media/mydisk<br clear="all">Jacob
>>Mansfield<br>Programmer<br><br>
>><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 14 October 2010 17:37, Ash Wyllie <span
>>dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ashw at lr.net">ashw at lr.net</a>></span>
>>wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;
>>border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
>
>>Hi<br>
>><br>
>>I've booted form my USB stick.<br>
>><br>
>>I have the hardware, the new disk and the USB to SATA converter. I can see
>>the<br> drive and can modify it using GParted.<br>
>><br>
>>The original straight from Dell drive is still in the laptop. GParted can
>>see<br> it.<br>
>><br>
>>But I can't copy it. GParted information gives a warning<br>
>><br>
>> ? ? ? ? ? ?"Unable to find mount point"<br>
>><br>
>> ? ? ? ? ? ?"Unable to read the contents of this file
>> system!"<br>
>><br>
>>I have run backups, but I am not confident that I could restore what I have
>>from<br> the backups. (one backup shows 4.21GB on the backup partition, the
>>other 19.7GB.<br> One backup program gave a whole bunch of permission
>>warnings...).<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? -ash<br>
>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Elect Cthulhu!<br>
>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Vote the greater evil.<br>
>><font color="#888888"><br>
>><br>
>><br>
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>                          -ash
>                          Elect Cthulhu!
>                          Vote the greater evil.
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 11:34:44 -0500
> From: "Cybe R. Wizard" <cyber_wizard at mindspring.com>
> Subject: Re: Help upgrading to 10.10
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Message-ID: <20101014113444.55d840dc at WizardsTower>
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> On Thu, 14 Oct 2010 16:51:33 +0100
> Pope wrote:
>
>> I'm British, for the record.
>>
>> Al.
>
> I knew that; therefore, the in-depth explanation.
>
>       ;-]
>
> Cybe R. Wizard
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> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 18:01:26 +0100
> From: Luis Paulo <luis.barbas at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Cloning a disk pt2
> To: "Ubuntu user technical support,	not for general discussions"
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> On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 18:28, Ash Wyllie <ashw at lr.net> wrote:
>> Jacob Mansfield opined
>>
>>
>>
>>>the drive isn't mounted, depending on how the drive is connected you need
>>> a
>>>command similar to
>>>mount /dev/sdb1 /media/mydisk
>>>Jacob Mansfield
>>>Programmer
>>
>> When it is mounted I get the "Unable to read the contents..." message
>>
>
> Does fdisk /dev/sdb1 or cfdisk /dev/sdb1 shows anything more helpful
> (with sudo)?
>
>
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 18:03:54 +0100
> From: Luis Paulo <luis.barbas at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Cloning a disk pt2
> To: "Ubuntu user technical support,	not for general discussions"
> 	<ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
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> btw, what is "pt2"?
>
>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 13:19:56 -0400
> From: Ric Moore <wayward4now at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Help upgrading to 10.10
> To: "Ubuntu user technical support,	not for general discussions"
> 	<ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID: <1287076796.23619.6.camel at iam.wayward4now.net>
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> On Thu, 2010-10-14 at 05:39 -0400, Tom H wrote:
>> On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 5:15 AM, Basil Chupin <blchupin at iinet.net.au>
>> wrote:
>
>> > You know, all this is getting hairier and hairier.
>> >
>> > Why can't there be a STABLE or at least a well publicised way of doing
>> > such things?
>> >
>> > I am not going over some of the responses to questions about how to
>> > upgrade to 10.10 posted here over the past week.
>> >
>> > But, frankly, to a new comer (a 'newbie') the responses are simply
>> > mind-boggling :'( .
>>
>> I don't see what your problem is.
>>
>> The OP asked how he could upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10 at the CLI and I
>> answered.
>>
>> Jordon objected to some extra typing and Marius objected to being
>> careful/unixy.
>>
>> That's it.
>
> I have to agree with Basil, it's not clear that there is one official
> way of upgrading, and it got me confused during the reading of it. Not
> that I'm a stranger to confusion amongst the Linux ranks, having evolved
> from the 11 floppy disk install of Slackware, before CD's were in common
> use, to the "Click here to continue" GUI of today. But for a Newbie,
> confusion turns to fear. That ain't good. OTOH, it IS all about choice.
> That is good. But, again, confusion is not good.
>
> My 4 cents. (which is 2 cents taking inflation into account) Ric
>
>
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> "There are two Great Sins in the world...
> ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
> Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
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