Any suggestions, please? -UPDATE - BUT NO JOY -- RESOLVED....WELL SORT OF......

Basil Chupin blchupin at
Mon Oct 18 05:10:11 UTC 2010

On 18/10/2010 08:13, Li Li wrote:
> On Sun, 2010-10-17 at 16:49 +1100, Basil Chupin wrote:
>> On 17/10/2010 16:00, Basil Chupin wrote:
> [ much snippage ]
>> Anyway, to cut a short answer long, (but this does not gel with my
>> opening post!) I ended up putting my slow, old, backup system into the
>> Antec case which contained by original (failed) system. I transferred it
>> yesterday with the psu, the modo, the lot...... and non of it would
>> work! The whole sheebang was DEAD!
>> Spent the evening reading RED MARS, had several bottles of wine (maybe
>> more....can't recall), cried a bit on the pretzels, went to bed.....
>> Woke up in the middle of the night - and concluded that there is
>> something wrong with the *power switch* on the Antec case.
> Told you 3 weeks ago to take the MB out of the case, take everything
> (including memory) out of the MB, take the power supply out of the case
> and plug the two together on a wooden table in an uncarpeted room with
> your feet bare (static precautions) and short the PWR pins together
> briefly with your pocket knife blade.  Signs of life?  Add stuff back
> gradually until it fails.

I guess I missed it... :-( .

Anyway, just tried it on the mobo which seemed to have failed - and it 
is "dead" from the point of view that I don't get a single beep out of 
it when power is applied, and there is power going into the mobo (I 
still had the cpu attached and the cpu fan was working OK and the RAM 
LED was glowing).

I'll try same now on the replacement mobo in the next couple of days 
(other things to do in the meantime).

And thanks for repeating above/below which I apparently missed.


>> [1] In another thread - I think it's in the offtopic list - I mentioned
>> that I used to lubricate fans with molybdenum past. Well this one was,
>> but what I discovered is that the paste had hardened (?from heat) and
>> the fan would not spin. I had to take it apart, clean it and lubricate it.
> Marvel Mystery Oil!

Most probably isn't available here in AUS. But will check.

I use gun-oil, with all its additives and synthetic this and synthetic 

>   A wonderful North American product; I dunno if they
> still even make it.  It was for top cylinder lubrication, so it was kind
> of viscus, maybe SAE 35.  A can will last a long life time of fan
> lubrication.  Any similar product would probably work.  For fans, I like
> to pay the couple of bucks more for dual ball bearings, since
> re-lubricating sleeve bearings just postpones the inevitable.
The 80mm and 120mm case fans, plus cpu fan, are all ball-rearing but I 
haven't yet seen any 40mm fans for HDD cradles which are balled- only 
sleeved. And I didn't even think that I could get a ball-bearing fan for 
the video card until I just looked and found that Zalman make such fans 
for my nVidia 6600 card. Will have to investigate this one! :-)

Thanks again for the above.


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                 George Gobel

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