ubuntu-users Digest, Vol 75, Issue 260
Kevin Thompson
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Thu Nov 18 18:28:25 UTC 2010
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Another funny.... (Ric Moore)
2. Re: USB Device loads twice, WTF lucid lynx on lsd (Ric Moore)
3. Re: Evolution not able to connect to MS exchange
(& Ru Chelladurai)
4. Re: USB Device loads twice, WTF lucid lynx on lsd (NoOp)
5. Re: Another funny.... (ms)
6. Grub 2 and moved sytem (rant and question) (Thierry de Coulon)
7. Re: [Tip] How many Non-free software is on your machine ?
(Michael Haney)
8. Re: Resolution of my OP back at the beginning of September
titled, "Any suggestions, please?" (Mark)
9. Re: Filename brace expansion in scripts (Mark)
10. Re: Filename brace expansion in scripts (Markus Sch?nhaber)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 12:16:45 -0500
From: Ric Moore <wayward4now at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Another funny....
To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions"
<ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
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On Thu, 2010-11-18 at 18:47 +1100, Basil Chupin wrote:
> On 18/11/2010 15:11, Mark wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Mark<mhullrich at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>> Why don't you just change the short-cut manually to be what you want it to
> >>> be?
> >>>
> >>>
> >> You know, if I have to do actual work to get these things the way I
> >> want them to be, to hell with 'em! :-)
> >>
> >> Actually, I didn't even think of that, but, surprise (not), it makes
> >> sense. Shouldn't be too hard, done it before, muttering away down the
> >> hall, scratching my head....
> >>
> > All right, that wasn't as easy as it looked. I had to google for the
> > answer, and the first conversation up was wrong (well, sort of - it
> > contained misleading information) but it pointed me in the right
> > direction.
> >
>
> Which is why I do NOT propagate the urban legend that "google is your
> friend".
>
> It makes a lot more sense to ask for help about a problem, and get it,
> from either this forum or launchpad or the Ubuntu documentation.
I think that flies against conventional wisdom that those in need of
help search first, just so the list doesn't have to answer the same
problem 6 times a week. There is that... :) Ric
--
My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
Linux user# 44256
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 12:24:51 -0500
From: Ric Moore <wayward4now at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: USB Device loads twice, WTF lucid lynx on lsd
To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions"
<ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
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On Thu, 2010-11-18 at 23:52 +1100, Basil Chupin wrote:
> Be specific and give details about your problem. Nobody here is a mind
> reader or a clairvoyant, and nobody has a decent crystal ball to gaze
> into :-) .
Well, I do, but I don't tell people about it. Then they would be bugging
me for details of their past-lives, etc and it gets old. :) Ric
--
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"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
Linux user# 44256
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 22:59:49 +0530
From: "& Ru Chelladurai" <theunknownandrew at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Evolution not able to connect to MS exchange
To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
Message-ID: <201011182259.49955.TheUnknownAndrew at gmail.com>
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Mark Widdicombe wrote "Evolution not able to connect to MS exchange" on Tuesday
16 Nov 2010 at 10:45 pm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
> Could not locate server .
> Make sure the server name is spelled correctly and try again.
>
> Can anyone shed any light on this?
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
The culprit is usually the server name, example : my company's sever name is
made public as geo.domain.name.com but in truth the server name is a string of
alpha-num chars separated by periods something like a7cd.1mnq.x3yz.com
So just make sure you are entering the right one. and to be sure
have a look at your OWA in these places
http://outlookliveanswers.com/cfs-
filesystemfile.ashx/__key/CommunityServer.Discussions.Components.Files/3/4341.help-
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http://outlookliveanswers.com/cfs-
filesystemfile.ashx/__key/CommunityServer.Discussions.Components.Files/3/5482.helpabout.jpg
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 09:44:23 -0800
From: NoOp <glgxg at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: USB Device loads twice, WTF lucid lynx on lsd
To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
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On 11/18/2010 03:48 AM, Nick Edwards wrote:
> So, I plug in my digital USB camera, and I get multiple icons, I get
> multiple copies of gtkam, fspot and even if I set it to, "ask me" i still
> get multiple boxes appear, It likely wants to open more than twice but i get
> an error cant lock device box, this never happened on hardy.
>
> Anyone got any pointers on how to resolve? It never used to do it and I
> swear that early use of lucid never did this, but something is now making
> it.
Try opening Nautilus, then Edit|Preferences|Media|Photos: Ask me what to
do. It wasn't clear if you'd already done that, or just used the popup
to set 'ask me'.
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 18:11:29 +0000
From: ms <devicerandom at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Another funny....
To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
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On 18/11/10 07:47, Basil Chupin wrote:
> Which is why I do NOT propagate the urban legend that "google is your
> friend".
>
> It makes a lot more sense to ask for help about a problem, and get it,
> from either this forum or launchpad or the Ubuntu documentation.
>
> What you get when you "google" is equivalent to using a Usenet newsgroup
> where morons mostly post moronic statements/answers.
Yes, if you brainlessly follow the first link that comes up instead of
searching a bit, try to understand and make up your mind.
That's the difference between learning and parroting. Nothing is your
friend, if you're dumb enough. :)
--
Massimo Sandal, Ph.D.
http://devicerandom.org
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 19:11:46 +0100
From: Thierry de Coulon <tcoulon at decoulon.ch>
Subject: Grub 2 and moved sytem (rant and question)
To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
Message-ID: <201011181911.46162.tcoulon at decoulon.ch>
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This is partly a rant (sorry, need to let this out) and partly a question.
Following the fact that it's quite difficult to get a scanner to work with 64
bit Linux when it (unfortunately) requires a closed source 32bit driver, I've
decided to migrate my installation to a larger partition (on the same
computer).
I've done it as I usually do, by copying the installation from one partition
to another, in this case / went from sda6 to sda1 and /home from sda7 to sda2
(using cp -r -v --preserve --no-dereference). No problem.
I then edited /etc/fstab on the new root. Normaly, I would have
edited /boot/grub/menu.lst but... we now have grub 2.
First try: no luck. Grub fails with: Alert! /dev/disk/by-uuid/<some long and
impossible to understand stuipd uuid>
************Rant 1****************************
they say they must use uuid's because "if partition order changes one can not
boot anymore". Well, when does partition order change without the user doing
it? And it's easy to correct with /dev/sdx, not with uuid! And if you clone
your disk _nothing_ works at all because _all_ uuid's change! Great! Now even
when the partition order did not change you can't boot anymore...
**********************************************
Now, luckily, I could still boot my old installation and search for
information as to how get grub 2 to find out about the new uuid if my root
partition, but I found none! update-grub did not do it. Grub 2 documentation
is as easy to read as the darkest night and they should really have created
tools to manage it before they use it as default boot loader.
After some time searching to no avail, I made another search that solved my
problem: uninstall grub 2, install grub legacy, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst, and
voil?, everything works.
*************Rant 2**************************
Maybe Grub 2 has many more possibilities than Grub Legacy, for the moment and
with the current documentation, it mostly has more problems!
*******************************************
Now to the question: does anyone know how to do with grub 2 if you move your
system to another partition?
Thierry
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 13:13:49 -0500
From: Michael Haney <thezorch at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Tip] How many Non-free software is on your machine ?
To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions"
<ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
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thezorch at thezorch-desktop:~$ vrms
Non-free packages installed on thezorch-desktop
nvidia-173 NVIDIA binary Xorg driver, kernel module and VDPAU lib
Contrib packages installed on thezorch-desktop
flashplugin-installer Adobe Flash Player plugin installer
gstreamer0.10-pitfdll GStreamer plugin for using MS Windows binary codecs
nvidia-common Find obsolete NVIDIA drivers
nvidia-settings Tool of configuring the NVIDIA graphics driver
ttf-mscorefonts-installer Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts
1 non-free packages, 0.1% of 1430 installed packages.
5 contrib packages, 0.3% of 1430 installed packages.
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 10:17:54 -0800
From: Mark <mhullrich at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Resolution of my OP back at the beginning of September
titled, "Any suggestions, please?"
To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions"
<ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
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It's spelled "kaput," Basil, not "kapoot."
Jeez.
<RBFG>
Glad your system is back - I hate it when my main machine does
anything bizarro like that. Since I put Linux on it almost 4 years
ago, it has lost a power supply and a video controller, but I have
also replaced all the disks (PATA -> SATA), the m/b twice (more power,
then on-board SATA-II), CPU (Athlon X2 -> faster X2 -> Athlon II X4)
and memory thrice (1GB -> 2GB -> 4GB) each, and both DVD writers. She
hums along quite comfortably these days.
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 10:23:13 -0800
From: Mark <mhullrich at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Filename brace expansion in scripts
To: clanlaw at googlemail.com, "Ubuntu user technical support, not for
general discussions" <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
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On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 7:48 AM, Colin Law <clanlaw at googlemail.com> wrote:
> I have a problem with filename expansion in a script and am having
> difficulty understanding what is going on.
> In a terminal, if I enter
> ls {a*,b*}
> I see all files beginning with a or b (I know this is not the best way
> of doing that but it is a simple example of the problem I am seeing).
Although this is not what you were asking about, have you considered
using [ab]* instead?
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 19:25:16 +0100
From: Markus Sch?nhaber <ubuntu-users at list-post.mks-mail.de>
Subject: Re: Filename brace expansion in scripts
To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
Message-ID: <4CE56F8C.4000808 at list-post.mks-mail.de>
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18.11.2010 16:48, Colin Law:
> I have a problem with filename expansion in a script and am having
> difficulty understanding what is going on.
> In a terminal, if I enter
> ls {a*,b*}
> I see all files beginning with a or b (I know this is not the best way
> of doing that but it is a simple example of the problem I am seeing).
Your login shell (i. e. /bin/bash unless you manually changed that)
executes the command and does the file-name globbing beforehand.
> If I put that line in a file test.sh, make it executable, and then type
> ./test.sh
> then I see the same result.
Because it's bash again.
> However if at the start of test.sh I put the line
> #!/usr/bin/env sh
> at the start of test.sh and then run it I get
> ls: cannot access {f*,l*}: No such file or directory
Now the script is effectively executed by /bin/sh, which, since Hardy
(IIRC), is not a symlink to /bin/bash anymore but to /bin/dash. And dash
doesn't understand most bashisms. That's why it doesn't behave the way
you expected.
> It seems that brace expansion is not being performed in this case. If
> I just use wildcards it is ok, it is the braces that cause the
> problem. In order to determine whether a different shell was running
> for some reason I also put
> finger -l
> in the script, and in both cases, with and without the shebang line,
> it showed /bin/bash as the shell.
Which is to be expected. finger -l prints, among other stuff, what is
configured to be the user's login shell. It doesn't tell you anything
about the process that started it.
> If, however, I put
> #!/bin/bash
> at the start then it works, still showing /bin/bash as the shell.
Now again, the script will be run by bash, which, unlike dash, treats
{f*,l*} as a glob and replaces it with a list of matching file-names
before calling ls.
--
Regards
mks
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