10.04? No thanks, I give up!

[Karl Larsen]

On 05/11/2010 08:12 PM, chris wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-05-12 at 08:59 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote:
>    
>> On Wednesday, May 12, 2010 12:30 AM, Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
>>      
>>> On Tue, 11 May 2010 19:20:03 +0800
>>> Chan Chung Hang Christopher<christopher.chan at bradbury.edu.hk>   wrote:
>>>
>>>        
>>>> That LTS badge is meaningless if it just means we shall ensure
>>>> security fixes for the next x years.
>>>>
>>>>          
>>> It isn't meaningless.  It just has a meaning that people don't expect
>>> and /doesn't/ have the meaning they /do/ expect.  Nowhere does it claim
>>> to be bugless or stable.
>>>
>>>        
>>
>> Come right up! We be walking in the paths of the proven and glorious and
>> successful Microsoft! This be Linux for the masses just like Windows is
>> for the masses!
>>
>>      
> I assume that this was tongue in check.  :-)
>
> <snip>
>    
>> If you cannot be bothered to ensure that it is free of bugs causing
>> major problems be it data loss or usability, then I am not interested.
>>      
>    
>> We don't claim bugless or stability. You call that an excuse?
>>
>>      
> I have to agree with you, with one provisio. I have used Ubuntu since
> its first releases, and indeed some of my clients are still using 6.04
> with no issues.
> 8.04 never gave me an issue, but since then, their "must" release cycle
> has simply meant things have consistently gone down hill.
>
> I find Debian Lenny is stable bug free and does every thing I want.
> Also PCLinux os, which is an rpm based distro.
>
> I don't know how we get the point across to Shuttleworth and co, that
> what the bulk of users; ie  not ubber geeks, require, is stable sound
> software that performs as it should.  Having to spend three months
> triaging a system that is faulty to make it stable is not an option for
> most.
>
> The other thing that is bugging the ^&*(*&^ out of my client base is
> that fact that Ubuntu dropped support for dial up.
> A significant number of my clients use dial up.
>
> This is very easy to set up in Debian, and Pc linux os, where as under
> Ubuntu you need access to the internet to download the files needed to
> set up dial up.  How can you do that with out internet access?
> Frankly these frustrations are forcing me to move to another distro.
>
> Cheers the kiwi
>
>
>
>    
         It is the same question you ask yourself when deleting Network 
Manager. How do you d/l the replacement? A person using dial up will not 
like Ubuntu because the upgrades can be large, which takes a long time 
on slow Internet. I think you can still get the dial up stuff via 
apt-get but again how do you apt-get without the Internet?


     I keep dropping back to 8.04 because my hardware doesn't work in 
10.04. I have to admit that 8.04 is a fine reliable Linux system. I look 
at 10.04 and it has little more to offer, someday :-)

73 Karl


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