Ext3 instead of Ext4

[Amedee Van Gasse]

On 08-03-10 07:13, MirJafar Ali wrote:
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 5:47 AM, Chan Chung Hang Christopher
> <christopher.chan at bradbury.edu.hk
> <mailto:christopher.chan at bradbury.edu.hk>> wrote:
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>      > That being said, what does the topic starter want to do?
>     Mirjafar, what
>      > is your current situation and what is the goal that you want to
>     achieve?
>      > To give you a good answer, you really need to provide more background
>      > information. All our answers are now just shooting in the dark,
>     and that
>      > doesn't really help you.
>      >
>
>     He started off with what looked like a research project on ext3, then a
>     request for programming code (hello - getting others to do your work for
>     you?) and now I guess he might actually have a go at modifying the
>     ext3/ext4 driver.
>
>     Just hope that he does not get driven down Hans Reiser's path - actually
>     get something good going - get creamed by kernel politics - get a really
>     bad friend or two - go bonkers.
>
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> This particular mail was received in bad taste and spirit of community
> sharing of knowledge.
> In fact, my personal opinion from the past experience says that mediocre
> people make fun
> of others work, culture and knowledge.
>
> Well, if you carefully observe then you will realize that no society is
> perfect. Well, my view
> is that if chinese learn by rote, it is becuase they have pressure for
> doing hardwork and survive.
> Let us not judge other's culture, we all live in glass houses.
>
> And Mr, Chan, it is your ignorance which is telliing that someone want
> to get done by others.
> My presumptions is that you haven't been to graduate school.
>
> With regards.
>
> Mir.
>
Mir,

I have taken a look at your recent mail history on this list.
You appear to be a C programmer with maybe a few years of experience. 
But you're probably not *very* experienced (not yet) because of several 
reasons:
* you ask the wrong questions (very basic questions OR too advanced 
questions)
* you ask the right questions at the wrong audience
* you don't provide a lot of background information, not even when asked
* it seems like you haven't done a lot of research (google) before you 
asked on the list

In itself these are not all bad things. It's just that you are 
inexperienced and still need to learn. It will come with time. 
Experienced programmers only became experienced when they knew how to 
ask the right questions at the right audience, and provided the right 
context for their question.

However what may have irritated Christopher is that you are asking 
questions about things that have already been done (ext2/3/4 
development). Especially the combination of basic and advanced questions 
is very strange. To me it gives the impression of an university student 
that has to do an assignment on the ext3 filesystem but doesn't know 
where to start, and started too late on his project, and frankly, on one 
occasion it seemed like you literally asked others to do your work for you.

That observation may be totally wrong so please correct me. It's just 
that this pattern of asking too advanced questions by someone who 
otherwise asks basic questions is all too familiar for some people. It 
is called the "Send Me Teh Codez" syndrome. Look it up, please.


My honest suggestion is that you now subscribe to the Linux Kernel 
mailing list, or perhaps the Linux Kernel mailing list devoted to the 
ext4 fs development, and that you ask all your advanced questions about 
programming ext4 there, and that you keep the simple to intermediate 
questions about other topics on ubuntu-users. I think that this has 
already been suggested more than once.
Be careful on the Linux Kernel mailing list: it took you perhaps 20 
emails before someone sent you a slightly irritated answer. On the 
kernel list you might not even make it to email 2. And it may be much 
harsher than what Christopher wrote. So think (and google) a lot before 
your write your emails.

-- 
Kind regards,
Amedee