Yet Another Boring Discussion About The CoC

Gilles Gravier ggravier at
Sun Jan 3 10:25:10 UTC 2010

Thanks Amedee for shooting faster than I did. :)

On 03/01/2010 11:11, Amedee Van Gasse wrote:
> On 03-01-10 01:42, RobertHoltzman wrote:
>> On Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 06:57:49PM +0100, Gilles Gravier wrote:
>>> Res,
>>> On 02/01/2010 18:35, Res wrote:
>>>> i never was asked or agreed to it when i subbed, so sod off and go play
>>>> net-cop with someone else you tosser
>>> Do you know the concept of "implicit agreement"? You signed up for the
>>> list, means you implicitly agreed to the code. Go check "implicit" in a
>>> dictionary.
>> Just for my information, is the fact that you implicitly agree to the C
>> of C spelled out when you subscribe? It's been so long I can't remember.
> It is implicitly spelled out, yes.
> Didn't you read the memo two weeks ago, by Mark Shuttleworth?
> There was even a bug report and the mailing list etiquette was changed 
> to explicitly point to the CoC.
> Just click on this link, will ya?
> "Subscribing to ubuntu-users
> Subscribe to ubuntu-users by filling out the following form. Please 
> respect the Ubuntu Code of Conduct when posting to this list."
And by the way, as is the case in many places on our planet, just
ignoring the fact that the code of conduct exists doesn't prevent you
from adhering to it. Examples are all over. Take laws in a country. Most
citizens don't know them all (the books of laws are way too thick, and
even lawyers have to be specialized and don't know them all)... yet we
all have to adhere by the law. In fact, most countries have a "you
cannot ignore the law" rule which is implicit or explicit, but mandates
that you follow the laws, even if you don't know them all.

Same as code of conduct. You migh have subscribed in a way that didn't
make you see them (when you are born in a country, you aren't asked to
sign an agreement to adhere to the laws on your day of birth)... yet you
have to.

Same here. The code of conduct exists. It's, in fact, EASY to find it
(as you point out, Amedee, there's a link in each mail posted to the
list)... and you should respect it. Just like (I saw that mentionned
elsewhere on the list) radio amateurs are asked to follow a code of
conduct when talking on the airwaves.

It's usually just common sense and politeness that is aimed at keeping
everybody happy and nice.


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