Jim Byrnes jf_byrnes at
Fri Feb 26 16:10:38 UTC 2010

Dave Howorth wrote:
> Jim Byrnes wrote:
>> Dave Howorth wrote:
>>> In general that is the wrong solution. Files very often have specific
>>> ownership and permissions in order to make the system work properly and
>>> be secure. So changing the ownership of arbitrary files is a Bad Idea.
>>> Don't do it unless you know exactly what the file is and why you're
>>> changing its ownership.
>> I'm still getting used to file permissions so I'll keep this in mind. In
>> this case I had installed LAMP on my desktop and all the files will be
>> put there by myself.
> That's one of the cases where ownership often matters. The web server
> normally has its own user id and files need to be accessible by that
> user. Since the web server is exposed to the outside world, it's
> important to keep it as secure as possible so the permission on those
> files should be as restrictive as possible and ideally there won't be
> much overlap with other users' permissions and especially not with root
> permissions.

It is on my desktop running on localhost. Hopefully it is not exposed to 
the outside world, but if it is someone please correct me.

> I don't know exactly how ubuntu organizes this though I see there is a
> www-data user&  group for apache. I would create files with you as owner
> and set the group to www-data and permissions to 640 or 750 depending on
> whether they're data or directories/executables. Then you won't need
> gksudo to edit them. You'll need root permission to create the files
> and/or top-level directories in /var/www in the first place, of course.
> Cheers, Dave

I was working on it last night and was able to edit the files as myself. 
I thought I had it setup so I was the owner of the files and directory, 
but I just looked and I own the files, but root owns the directory.  In 
light of what you told me above I will take another look at how the 
whole thing works.  I still don't have a good handle on how the whole 
groups fit into it but I'm learning.

Thanks,  Jim

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