Where Ubu fails. Was: Re: Karl - grub2 and ext2/ext3/ext4

[Tom H]

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 6:42 PM, chris <chevhq at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 17:05 -0500, Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
>> On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 08:11:30 +1200
>> chris <chevhq at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > If you are using Debian stable then why should you care at all what
> <snip>
>> I still don't get it, I suppose.  Where does Ubuntu fail for you?  If
>> it is in the newest release maybe you'd be happier if, as with Debian,
>> you stayed with the tried and true, still supported next-to-last LTS.
>> The newest is often not (yet) the best/most stable.
>>
> To date
> pulse audio
> grub2
> ext4
>
> network manager and some odd wireless and printing issues
> various other issues that I cannot put my mind to off hand.
>
> None of which have occurred in the machines I maintain for local
> business's running Debian stable.  These are business machines that
> cannot afford downtime.  I earn my living maintaining them; with debian
> stable it is basically pick up my check and thank you.

Pulse audio: Just about every version of pulse audio in every
distribution has sucked.

grub2: this is a red herring; it has been very stable since March, at least.

ext4: if you don't trust it, you can use ext3.

Debian Squeeze will be out soon and Lucid and Squeeze will be pretty
much the same, except for Ubuntu's UI tweaks. I hope that you will
complain about Squeeze as vociferously as you are about Lucid...