list rules [was: Reconfigure after changing Video Card]

[Ric Moore]

On Sat, 2010-07-31 at 22:32 -0500, Billie Walsh wrote:
> On 07/31/2010 07:16 PM, p.echols at comcast.net wrote:
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> >    
> >> From: "Res"<res at ausics.net>
> >> To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions"<ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> >> Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 2:56:56 PM
> >> Subject: Re: list rules [was: Reconfigure after changing Video Card]
> >>
> >> On Sat, 31 Jul 2010, Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
> >>
> >>      
> >>> I've said it before, I'll say it again; the sign-up page needs to
> >>>        
> >> point
> >>      
> >>> not only to the CoC, but to the mailing list etiquette [1] page as
> >>>        
> >> well.
> >>      
> >>> It would be well if everyone had to sign /BOTH/ of those before
> >>>        
> >> joining.
> >>      
> >>> Until that happens it is really pointless to bitch about
> >>>        
> >> non-compliance
> >>      
> >>> (although I sometimes do anyway).
> >>>        
> >>
> >>
> >> and it is still pointless... unless you are going to turn off direct
> >> subscription reuests via email, that's how I signed up years ago,
> >> thats
> >> how I'm sure countless many others signed up, the only confirmation
> >> mailman does is check if the sender envelope actually wants to be on
> >> the
> >> requested list, I never signed nor agreed to ANYTHING to join this
> >> list.
> >>
> >> NEWSFLASH:   Email has been in use many years longer than web, why
> >> does
> >> everyone here think the only members of this list arrived here coz of
> >> some
> >> page on a ubuntu website  *sigh*
> >>      
> >
> > This is the, "I didn't agree to it, so it doesn't apply to me" argument.  Completely ignores that there are reasons for going along that have nothing to do with whether you can be compelled.  Example:  IMHO, top posting is a symptom of cluelessness.  Since I want my cluelessness to be judged by what I say, I don't top post.  AND, if I see someone who I think might benefit from the tip, I will suggest the same to them.  That most assuredly does NOT make me a "net cop."
> >
> > Oh, and responding to the above with "no one can make me but the admins" both misses the point and elicits a "Well DUH!" from me.
> >
> > Have a groovy day!
> >
> > --PE
> >
> >    
> 
> Well, if opinions are allowed I'll voice mine.
> 
> Bottom posting is the one of the two stupidist things in e-mail. If I'm 
> following a thread having to scroll down through all the previous posts 
> is a royal pain in the posterior. Top posting make immensely more sense. 
> If I lose my place in a top post I can always scroll down to refresh my 
> memory. Otherwise, what I need to read is right there when I open the 
> e-mail.

I guess it depends on just how far back using email you go. I never
noticed much top-posting at all, until the last 5-10 years. At least not
in the places I hung around it. Mostly tech email lists. But,
top-posting for personal mail is OK, I guess. I much prefer to middle
post, to keep the "conversation" in order, even in private email. I
don't believe I ever saw top-posting on BBS's. When you were composing
online, their email client pretty much forced you to bottom post in
reply. Owell! Just my two cents, Ric