Karmic (Beta) Test Installs

Tue Oct 6 01:51:35 UTC 2009

--- On Mon, 10/5/09, NoOp <glgxg at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> From: NoOp <glgxg at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Karmic (Beta) Test Installs
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Date: Monday, October 5, 2009, 7:14 PM
> As mentioned in the "Grub 2 in
> Jaunty/Karmic can break double boot
> configuration" thread, I decided to try a few different
> test installs of
> Karmic Beta. I figured that it's better to start a new
> thread (blog?)
> regarding the tests.
> 
> Test machine: 1Ghz/384Mb, hd0,0 (sdb1) = jaunty (fully
> updated) - 10G
> drive, hd1,0 (sda1) = hardy (fully updated) - 20G drive.
> 
> 1. First test involved _upgrading_ the jaunty drive (10G)
> to karmic beta
> using:
> 
> To upgrade from Ubuntu 9.04 on a desktop system, press
> Alt+F2 and type
> in "update-manager -d" (without the quotes) into the
> command box. Update
> Manager should open up and tell you: New distribution
> release '9.10' is
> available. Click Upgrade and follow the on-screen
> instructions.
> 
> went well, albeit slow:
> 
>  26 packages are going to be removed. 268 new packages are
> going to be
> installed. 949 packages are going to be upgraded.
>   You have to download a total of 659M. This download
> will take about 1
> hour 40 minutes with your connection.
> 
> Overall took about 3 hours. grub 1 (0.97-29ubuntu56) is
> still installed,
> but grub-common is now grub 2 (1.97~beta3-1ubuntu7). So,
> menu.lst is
> still available & the drive is still ext3. Other OS
> (Ubuntu hardy 8.04)
> on the second drive still boots without issues.
> 
> 2. Second test involves installing karmic beta via the
> liveCD on hd0,0
> (sdb1) over the top of the karmic beta installed in test
> #1.
> 
> - filled in all the bits regarding timezone etc., & at
> the partition
> 
> 
> 
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> screen the liveCD defaults to sdb (hardy). I selected the
> option to
> instead install over sda (karmic) using the entire drive.
> CD whirs &
> does it's thing for awhile & eventually I get a 'Low
> Disk Space' popup
> stating "This computer has only 0 bytes disk space
> remaining". Huh? Well
> my options are: Examine or Ignore. The first time through
> (I'm on my
> second attempt) I selected 'Examine' and that proved
> worthless as baobab
> (Disk Usage Analyzer) crashed. So, this time I select
> 'Ignore'. That
> drops me to the liveCD desktop... nothing follows. Have to
> hard reboot
> the machine as there is no disk space left to even adjust
> the display
> (karmic thinks my display looks great at 1280x960 so you
> can't see the
> top panel).
> 
> One would think that the liveCD would have followed the
> method in
> jaunty's liveCD and gone ahead and formated &
> re-partitioned hd0,0
> (sda). I gave up.
> 
> 3. Third test involves using the karmic beta Alternate CD
> (something
> that I am quite familiar with from all my other Ubuntu
> distros).
> 
> o life is good again (almost).
> 
> - I get to select which of my 2 ethernet nics I want to use
> for the
> primary network interface, although DHCP doesn't seem to
> work (it does,
> I control & configure my router just fine), but the alt
> cd allows me to
> config the network manually, which I prefer anyway.
> 
> - I can manually select & partition sda (hd0,0 karmic
> beta from #1),
> select ext4 (I did for this test case), ext3, etc., etc. I
> elected to
> use Guided partitioning & use the entire drive.
> 
> - when finished partitioning, I get a '[!] Configuring
> grub-pc' window
> telling me that other operating systems have been detected
> (Ubuntu
> 8.04.3 LTS in this case) & advising that if all have
> been detected,
> "then it should be safe to install the boot loader to the
> master boot
> record of your first hard drive. When your computer boots,
> you will be
> able to chost to load one of these operating systems or
> your new system.
> Install the GRUB boot loader to the master boot record?"
> I selected the default 'Yes'.
> 
> o Installation finished without issues/errors. Reboots.
> Grub comes up &
> shows the karmic install, but (as with the previous clean
> install - see
> the previous "[Karmic] Heads up" thread from 9/23/2009) it
> doesn't show
> the sdb (hd1,0) hardy drive/install at all.
> 
> Note: I still get the  'address space collision on of
> device
> [0xfc9c0000-0xfc9dffff]' on the system
> (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/424142),
> 
> I continue to boot & login... the showing of usernames
> at the gdm login
> screen still bothers me. The screen is set for the silly
> 1280x960 so I
> have to add the Menu to the bottom panel so that I can
> change the
> setting to 1024x768/70hz... I doubt that new users will
> know how to do
> that btw.
> 
> I can see the other hardy drive in Places|20 GB Filesystem,
> but of
> course can't boot into it until I modify Grub 2 as pointed
> out in the
> "Grub 2 in Jaunty/Karmic can break double boot
> configuration"
> and
> "[Karmic] Heads up"
> threads. So, gentle karmic testers, a read through those
> threads are
> worth the effort :-)
> 
> I'll try some more scenarios tomorrow if I have a chance,
> but for the
> time being:
> 
> 1. Updgrade from jaunty via the network = +1 (works without
> issues).
> 2. Install from liveCD = -1 (wouldn't recommend it)
> 3. Install from Alternate CD = +.75 (works with some grub 2
> issues).
> 
> 
Intentionally not snipping such a fine blog.  However, I suppose that if you ran "update-grub2"(think that's right) that it didn't or wouldn't pick up your hardy drive and allow you to boot to it.  You did run "sudo update-grub(2)" didn't you?
Leonard Chatagnier
lenc5570 at sbcglobal.net