Wcid Program problems

[Shannon McMackin]

On 05/26/2009 05:22 PM, Karl F. Larsen wrote:
> Shannon McMackin wrote:
>> On 05/26/2009 02:32 PM, Karl F. Larsen wrote:
>>
>>> Robert Holtzman wrote:
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>>>> On Tue, 26 May 2009, Karl F. Larsen wrote:
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>>>>> Robert Holtzman wrote:
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>>>>>> On Mon, 25 May 2009, Karl F. Larsen wrote:
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>>>>>>> Robert Holtzman wrote:
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>>>>>>>> On Mon, 25 May 2009, Karl Larsen wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>      I have been looking at the Sourceforge web page for Wcid and it is
>>>>>>>>> all showing signs of not enough help for the technical writing and no
>>>>>>>>> plain blog on how to install and use Wcid software. Go to
>>>>>>>>> http://wicd.sourceforge.net/ and you will see what is happening.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>      If you have experiance with a wiki they need help setting that up.
>>>>>>>>> Also the list software is not working. I tried to join and nothing
>>>>>>>>> happened. I am not expert in either area :-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Karl,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Go back to the sourceforge link you cited and *read* the whole page
>>>>>>>> instead of skimming it. You will find a link to complete instructions on
>>>>>>>> downloading and installing the program. Also a link to the wicd forum. I
>>>>>>>> had no trouble registering. The key is that you have to read.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      I have switched to ALL besides the home page and see NOTHING about
>>>>>>> starting wcid once it is installed. Nothing about the tiny triangle you
>>>>>>> MUST click to add a WiFi password. This is all NOT THERE, PERIOD!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> NOT THERE, PERIOD, huh? How about this from the sourceforge page:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>                     ............snip...........
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>>      This does not cover USING wcid on a Ubuntu computer with WiFi except
>>>>> for Jaunty, and even there it doesn't talk to clicking the tiny triangle
>>>>> so you can enter your password. This IS critical :-)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Of course it is. It's also so trivial that no forum, wiki, HOWTO or man
>>>> page that I could find feels it necessary to mention it. After going
>>>> *way* back in the Ubuntu and Debian archives I failed to find anyone who
>>>> had trouble figuring this out. No one required spoon feeding to that
>>>> extent (disclaimer: due to the late hour and fatigue I may have missed
>>>> some, but if so they were damned few).
>>>>
>>>> Tell me, boychick, why only you?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>       Well my mother, not like yours knew nothing about this problem so
>>> she never told me be sure to leave the panel un-closed while you d/l the
>>> key. That is why the part of the Ubuntu instructions covering this part
>>> are done in dark letters. So guys like you can, if only you knew how to
>>> read, learn something.
>>>
>>> Karl
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> The point here is that Robert's telling you it was so trivial that he
>> didn't have to read about it.  He wasn't talking about the synaptic or
>> software sources, he was referring to your insistence that the triangle
>> widget in WICD should be documented.
>>
>> BTW, I tried WICD once and never needed any documentation to get it
>> running.  It didn't suit my needs, so I reverted back to NM and never
>> had issues with the keyring or any other portion of the application.
>>
>> Because it isn't obvious to you doesn't mean it's junk, broken or buggy
>> to anyone else.
>>
>>
>>
>      I say if you tried Wcid and didn't like it, it must have been an
> early model. The current model is so good it puts Network-Manager to
> shame :-)
>
> Karl
>
>
It was on Hardy and it didn't support LEAP authentication as used by my 
employer...