Inappropriate tone on this mailing list and requiremenfofor goce

[Charlie Kravetz]

On Thu, 7 May 2009 00:29:47 +0800 (WST)
Bret Busby <bret at busby.net> wrote:

> On Wed, 6 May 2009, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> 
> > 
> > On Wednesday 06 May 2009 15:00:10 Rashkae wrote:
> >> I do have one additional wish list for moderation.  If a moderator
> >> steps into an OT thread and asks it be moved, (private or sounder,
> >> as the case may be), the discussion ends *there.* and people
> >> brazenly defying the rule should be treated to the harshest
> >> measure of moderation.
> >
> > This is obviously desirable, but there is a practical problem.
> > There is bound to be an overlap because of the nature of email and
> > how individuals choose/are able to use it.  A post _after_ such a
> > notification may well have been sent before it, or anyhow before
> > the writer had read the request from a moderator.
> >
> > Lisi
> >
> >
> 
> I quite agree.
> 
> I think that removal after a "terminate this thread" message from a 
> moderator, should be at the discretion of the moderator(s).
> 
> They can determine whether a message posted in a thread after an "End 
> this thread" message is posted by them, is to be regarded as defiant.
> 
> I think that a simple rule is that, if material in a thread becomes 
> contentious (the behaviour of a poster is regarded as unacceptable), 
> instead of subscribers replying to such messages within the list,
> their concerns should be put in a message to the list
> administrator(s), who can then deal with the problem as they will.
> 
> That way, the list can be freed from postings "you should not have
> said that", or, "he/she/it should not have done that on this list",
> and agree/disagree messages regarding the conduct of other posters on
> the list.
> 
> I also think that it is appropriate etiquette, before a person
> responds to a message in a thread, for the person to (I can do this
> in PINE, so people with GUI MTA's should be able to do it) sort the
> messages in the folder by subject, and read all of the messages in
> the thread. That way, duplication of responses can be minimised, and
> "End this thread" messages that are posted by list
> administrators/moderators, can be found. It is easy enough to, after
> having read or skimmed the messages in a thread, return to the
> message at which that resort was done, and, resort the messages by
> order of arrival.
> 
> And, that way, if a list administrator or moderator has posted a 
> message with a subject like "<thread subject> - END THIS THREAD NOW"
> and messages are posted with that subject after a period of time, for 
> example, four hours, at the discretion of the list 
> administrators/moderators, then the poster of such messages are "fair 
> game" for removal.
> 

I would think this would have to be at least something like 36 hours,
since anyone receiving the digest format gets it once a day, I believe.
To ban anyone for replying after a "<thread subject> - END THIS THREAD
NOW" before they even get the announcement would be wrong, also.

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Charlie Kravetz 
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