Ubuntu 8.10 applets not saving properties - sounds + NetManager

Mihai Tanasescu mihai at duras.ro
Mon Mar 30 14:00:59 UTC 2009

Derek Broughton wrote:
> Mihai Tanasescu wrote:
>> @Thorny:
>> My home setup includes a static IP from the provider but I also have a
>> wifi usb stick in my home PC.
>> What good would in this case be to only be able to do roaming with the
>> Network Manager. (when it has in it an option to add a static ip instead
>> of DHCP for a network card..and I have 2 onboard).
> Ubuntu quite correctly makes the assumption that software that supports 95%
> of network use cases is probably better to distribute than more complicated
> software that would still fail in 1% of cases.  Of course, that doesn't
> alter the fact that there _are_ still bugs in NetworkManager that should
> have been stomped years ago.
> I still don't understand how you have a problem.  If your home setup has a
> static IP _and_ you're using Wifi at home, your computer should be using a
> dynamic IP from your router NOT the static IP.  Your router should have
> that static IP, and if your own computer uses it as well you're - at the
> very least - asking for big problems.  Put it this way, if your ISP has
> given you the address, and you plug your computer into a box on the
> wall , you use  Now, you plug your router into that box.  The
> router _must_ be set to  Whether your computer plugs into the
> router, another slot in the wall-box, or accesses the router via wireless
> it MUST NOT use the same IP as the router.  You'll be sending bits directly
> into a black hole.
Rephrasing what I had told.
My normal connection is static IP from the ISP.
I also have a wifi usb stick (which I use only when I'm left without any 
ISP connection) and with which I can locate a free hotspot which emits 
nearby (and from there I do get automatic IP via DHCP).
>> I was able to make a workaround against this bug (I found it reported
>> already) by doing ifconfig / route add default gw in a script and/or
>> killing NetManager, but it's not the civilized way to go.
> In 95% of cases, if you need to "workaround" a bug, you have to consider
> whether there's really a bug or whether you're doing things the wrong way.
Software that provides an option that doesn't work as intended..should 
be considered a bug otherwise the functionality shouldn't have been there.
My 2 cents.
>> Now what's left is the sound problem.
> Please ask in a separate thread.  It's hard enough to keep threads on topic
> without trying to handle two completely different problems at once. 

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