9.04 Beta loading

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On 03/28/2009 09:56 AM, David Fox wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Knute Johnson
> <knute2009 at knutejohnson.com> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks David and H.S.  Can I just download upgrade now from the 8.10 I
>> have to 9.04 beta or do I need to wait to do an upgrade until 9.04 is
>> released?
> 
> If you have a fast connection, then you could upgrade to 9.04 beta now
> by running 'update-manager -d' as root. Then do the aptitude upgrade
> bit periodically until 9.04 is finalized.
> 
> 
>>
>> I've used apt-get upgrade/update but not aptitude, what's the difference
>> on that?

These might help:
http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-pkgtools.en.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Packaging_Tool
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aptitude_(program)
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware (dated)
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CategoryPackageManagement
https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/installing-upgrading.html

For upgrading from 8.10, see:
<http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/jaunty/beta#Upgrading%20from%20Ubuntu%208.10>
Also see:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyJackalope/TechnicalOverview

> 
> Aptitude is the "next generation" upgrade tool. It is similar enough
> to apt-get to be easily switchable. Debian has been using aptitude now
> since at least when Etch was still the Testing branch, and has
> recommended people use aptitude instead of apt-get. This being the
> case, I wonder why so much Ubuntu documentation and references tell
> people to use apt-get. Hell, I was using aptitude in place of apt-get
> back in the days of Edgy Eft - I was babysitting a friend's box, but
> my main box back then ran Debian Testing (probably Etch).

Well, apt-get does have some serious issues:-)
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/56125

Previously apt-get wasn't removing dependencies:
http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/aptitude
However, I think that's now been fixed.

> 
> HS has a valid point that I had not considered -the use of the
> "full-upgrade" instead of just "upgrade". Most of the time "upgrade"
> is sufficient, as it's what I'm used to doing for so long now. But I
> ran "full-upgrade" earlier today and it had the effect of taking care
> of some packages that were "kept back" in the aptitude dialog, and
> cleaning out one or two others that weren't installable.
> 
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