Enough already

[Karl F. Larsen]

Carl Friis-Hansen wrote:
> Karl F. Larsen wrote:
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>> Thorny wrote:
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>>> On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 05:41:32 -0600, Karl F. Larsen posted:
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>>>> Thorny wrote:
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>>>>> On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 16:26:05 -0600, Karl F. Larsen posted:
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>>>>>>     I do like the way gmail works but the IMAP stinks! It works just
>>>>>> fine for a few days and then like today it almost stopped working. I
>>>>>> hope this will make the list.
>>>>>> So I am looking for something I can buy that works almost all the time.
>>>>>>
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>>>>> Karl, I know we are supposed to try and help people with the actual
>>>>> questions they ask but the problem with that is that when people are
>>>>> having trouble they often become frustrated and attribute the problem to
>>>>> a wrong cause and seek a solution based on that.
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>>     Here is my reason why IMAP doesn't work well with large email's. The 
>> IMAP principle is to send only the title of the message to me. I need to 
>> try and read it and then it decides to let me d/l the 8 MBytes of 
>> message with a .wmv file attached. This d/l period can be VERY long when 
>> IMAP is not working well. In fact I have tried to stop the long d/l and 
>> that fails too :-)
>>
>>     Contrast that to the POP3 method. When it gets a email it brings the 
>> whole thing with any attachments to my computer. When I click to play 
>> the attached movie or .ppp file it is right there and starts immediatly.
>>
>>     So that is the way things are with Gmail. IMAP just quits for some 
>> period caused by a glitch at Google. And the large emails are a real 
>> problem. POP3 is seldom down due to Google and it brings every email to 
>> my computer complete.
>>
>>
>> Karl
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> Karl, I think you forget what the idea behind IMAP is - right?
>
> With the POP protocol you download *all* messages to a specific PC and 
> delete them on the email server. You can only work effectively with your 
> email on that particular computer.
>
> With the IMAP protocol you leave the emails on the server and can have 
> many directories there. You might scan/cache the headers and read 
> selected email on any PC in the world. You can effectively work with 
> your email anywhere and on any PC.
>
> Access through web interface is via an IMAP or IMAP-like email server. 
> Gmail for example uses one directory only, but uses more complex flags 
> than in standard IMAP.
>
> So, Karl, please don't mix bananas, grape fruit, Gmail and Ubuntu too 
> much; but take in to sounder for example, where they probably would like 
> some more traffic.
>   
    For all I know IMAP may work fine if your in Sweden. It is very poor 
in New Mexico USA. As for using Gmail between many computers IMAP is 
perfect, when it works.

    With POP3 I have the choice of removing email from Gmail, or I can 
leave it on Gmail. This is so another computer like my laptop, can POP3 
email to itself when wanted. This is a lot like IMAP but not with the 
problems of IMAP.

Karl