Programming language for children

Ugly Sean ugly at
Wed Jun 17 02:29:21 UTC 2009

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tony Baldwin" <photodharma at>
To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions"
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Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 06:53
Subject: Re: Programming language for children

> marc wrote:
> >
> >> On 14/06/09 02:51 PM, marc wrote:
> >
> >>> One thing I don't agree with here is the avoidance of an IDE. Modern
> >>> IDEs are superb tools that do a huge amount of donkey work for you and
> >>> organise your work. And they're fun!
> Isn't it better that the beginner learn to do the donkey work and
> organization, first?
> Starting with an IDE is like learning your multiplication tables with a
> calculator in hand.  If the tool does all the work for you, how are you
> to learn to do the work?

Right. Now get off the computer. How are you ever going to understand
computers if all you do is USE them?

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