Consider removing vim-tiny from Ubuntu in the future

Alexandra Zaharia f0rg3r at gmail.com
Mon Jun 15 20:49:46 UTC 2009


On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 8:41 PM, howard chen<howachen at gmail.com> wrote:
> It can save the world
>
> http://www.google.com/search?hl=zh-TW&q=ubuntu+vim+arrow+key&meta=&aq=f&oq=

I am sorry, I do not see your point.

vim-tiny only supplies 'basic' vi behavior and functionality, whereas
vim-full comes with a lot of neatness and also the editor which is
called 'vim'. That's short for 'Vi IMproved'.

Of course, vim provided by vim-full has arrow keys working the way
you'd expect them to.

If you need an intuitive editor, use a GUI one or for command line
needs, use nano or mcedit.

The "thing" with vi's arrow keys which "do not work" is explained by
the fact that a long long while ago, when there was only 'vi'
available on Unix-like systems, those times were so old that standard
keyboards had no arrow keys. So that's why standard (classic) vi has
no *default* bindings for the arrow keys. Then, navigation within a
document was done from the 'command mode' (as opposed to the 'insert
mode') by using the keys H (left), J (down), K (up) and L (right).

As a fact, I can guarantee you that *some* of the people who first had
to learn to use vi are still keeping their preferred navigation method
the h, j, k, l way as opposed to the arrow keys one.
I myself am one of them.

Again, I see no point in your suggestion and furthermore, as somebody
else already pointed out, even if you'd write to the devel discussions
mailing list, replies wouldn't be likely.

For more interesting (or not) aspects of vi and vim, consider reading
online resources or at least run 'vimtutor', it should shed some light
on basic operations.




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