Port 25 and Static/Dynamic IP for Listserve SW

[Derek Broughton]

Amedee @ Ubuntu wrote:

> On Sat, July 18, 2009 23:04, Piper wrote:
> 
>> Either I use Majordomo or Mailman "as is" and I use them for PRIVATE
>> lists, not public list service
> 
> YES!
> 
>> or I have Evolution modified for the 2 criteria I stated earlier.
> 
> NO. That will never happen. Pigs will sooner fly.

Ah!  That's what I meant to say :-)

> <quote>
> You may not run a server in connection with the Shaw Services nor may you
> provide network services to others via the Shaw Services. Examples of
> prohibited servers and services include, but are not limited to, mail,
> http, ftp, irc, dhcp servers, and multi-user interactive forums. Some
> business services may be exempt from these limitations.
> </quote>
...
> A mailing list is technically a mail service. Doesn't matter if it is
> commercial, public or private. It's still a service.

Not to mention it qualifies as a multi-user interactive forum.

>> Should I switch to another public server instead of Yahoo? No, because I
>> have no reason to expect they will be any better and I posted the
>> complaints about Yahoo here earlier ..... and to Yahoo repeatedly.

Well the advantage of Google over Yahoo is that you could use your own 
domain name, and therefore be able to move it transparently later.
 
>> PS - Some day the same thing may have to be done with free public web
>> sites.
>> We may have to host our own web sites on our own computers.

Of course.
 
> Then you would need:
> * a domain name

Which you really should do anyway.  Really, everybody offering _any_ 
service, commercial or otherwise, aught to buy their own domain, precisely 
so that you can avoid the problem of hosting setups that fail, for whatever 
reason, to meet your needs.  Right now, all I pay for is a domain name.  DNS 
is hosted at a free DNS site, and my email and web pages are hosted at 
Google.  If I decide I don't like or have outgrown either of those, I can 
move them anywhere I want - but the addresses will remain "pointerstop.ca".

> * a fixed IP address OR
> * a dynamic IP address + some dyndns service
> * a webserver on your own computer (of course)

* another webserver of your own for backup...

> * your ISP must allow traffic on port 80
> * your ISP must allow you to host websites on your own computer
> 
> The last thing will get you in trouble:

... from _most_ home ISPs.
-- 
derek