9.04 can't find second hard drive.

[Karl F. Larsen]

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Accessys at smart.net wrote:
> 
> the motherboards were in previous posts but again
> 
> the bad motherboard was
> Intel  xx43TF (not positive since the box went back and it is not on
> the reciept)
> 
> the working  motherboard is
> ASUS P5QL
> 
> neither top nor bottom of thier lines but solid mid level boards.  The
> intel board would find everything fine, but just would not load Ubuntu
> interestingly it would find and load windows but could not or would
> not find and load Ubuntu (9.04 or 8.10 or SUSE 11.0)

	OK. Well neither are the real bad ones NewEgg was pushing last week. I
find it odd that your first board would not load Ubuntu. That is an
interesting failure. This is because the loading part is done with
special words that even Windows uses. Hard to see how that would not work.




73 Karl




> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> On Mon, 20 Jul 2009, Karl F. Larsen wrote:
> 
> Accessys at smart.net wrote:
>>>> thanks.
>>>>
>>>> steps taken since this thread has started and my proposed future
>>>> steps.
>>>> I've had bad Motherboards and in fact this is a 2nd motherboard at the
>>>> same time, the first one was bad out of the box and would never load
>>>> the OS
> 	Please tell use the type of motherboard you bought. The first special
> priced mother board on the latest newegg flier is a xlt or like that and
> these boards are BAD! So if you have one of those you need to get a much
> better board.
> 
> 
> 73 Karl
> 
> 
> 
>>>> but I have also totally botched a BIOS and am very very careful when
>>>> messing with the BIOS.
>>>>
>>>>  . I have ordered an external hard drive housing from NewEgg and it
>>>> was shipped this morning so I will probably wait.  until it arrives
>>>> and check that the HDD is functional before doing anything additional.
>>>>
>>>> . if the HDD is functional then I will just use it as an external HDD.
>>>> . if it is non functional then I have lost nothing and have risked but
>>>> a few bucks for an external HDD box, which I can use with some other
>>>> HDD's lying around so no major loss.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> system is working otherwise so if it is non critical I am reluctant to
>>>> mess with it.
>>>>
>>>> thanks for all the help, will get back when the external enclosure
>>>> arrives.
>>>>
>>>> Bob
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 20 Jul 2009, Mark Haney wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Karl F. Larsen wrote:
>>>>> .
>>>>>>> That said, I do think, if one is available, I would consider doing it.
>>>>>>> However, after following the thread a little longer (and ignoring Karl's
>>>>>>> silly posts) I still think the drive should be tested on a known working
>>>>>>>  IDE machine to make sure the drive is still good.
>>>>>>> To me, upgrading the BIOS is too risky unless we know for sure the IDE
>>>>>>> drive is functional.  If it's not, then a BIOS upgrade would be
>>>>>>> pointless and would risk the MB to no real purpose.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 	Mark if were able to read, too bad, you would know the guy has a brand
>>>>>> new mother board with a band new BIOS software. Why change that? It
>>>>>> works on everything except an old, maybe not working IDE hard drive.
>>>>> What part of my post didn't you understand?  Did you even bother to READ
>>>>> the bloody thing?  No.  I stated,
>>>>>
>>>>>> To me, upgrading the BIOS is too risky unless we know for sure the IDE
>>>>>>>> drive is functional.  If it's not, then a BIOS upgrade would be
>>>>>>>> pointless and would risk the MB to no real purpose.
>>>>> And yes, I'm aware it's a NEW motherboard, but haven't you ever received
>>>>> a new device (wireless router, mp3 player, motherboard) that has a new
>>>>> BIOS or firmware version that is buggy?  Never?  You are lucky, then.
>>>>> Buggy BIOS does happen on new motherboards.
>>>>>
>>>>> What YOU are advocating is not even bothering with determining if the
>>>>> old drive is bad or not.  And I say that's ridiculous.  If you don't
>>>>> want to give the helpful advice then I politely ask you to shut up.  If
>>>>> your advice is to ignore the problem, then don't post to this list, it
>>>>> wastes everyone's bandwidth.
>>>>>
>>>>> As for me, I would prefer to find out for certain if the drive is bad
>>>>> first, and if not, then determine the risk/reward of flashing the BIOS,
>>>>> IF A NEW VERSION IS EVEN AVAILABLE.  If the MB has an IDE controller it
>>>>> should recognize all IDE devices.  If it doesn't, then either the device
>>>>> is bad or the BIOS is bad.  I don't see it that the BIOS ignores IDE
>>>>> hard drives, or certain types.  IDE is IDE.  The BIOS /shouldn't/ care
>>>>> if it's a CDROM/DVD drive or a HDD.  The last time I saw a BIOS like
>>>>> that was back in the day when multi-GB HDDs were just made available and
>>>>> certain BIOS's couldn't handle the addressing of large drives.  I rather
>>>>>  doubt that's the issue here.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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