No good CD-Rom copy software (fwd)

[Karl F. Larsen]

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Res wrote:
> not my problem your mailer reads it as different,m  it is a forward of
> an email and pine clearly does not assicate it to how you want it, tuff
> luck for you.
> 
> On Mon, 6 Jul 2009, NoOp wrote:
> 
>> Top posted on purpose.
>>
>> Two questions:
>>
>> 1. Why is it that you can't seem to figure out how to post in the
>> original thread and instead continue to spawn these new posts?
>>
>> 2. 'Joerg'/Jörg Joerg Schilling <Joerg.Schilling at fokus.fraunhofer.de>
>> posted on this list previously
>>
>> Message-ID:
>> <4a48993a.5OvWfFQn9ND8gJni%Joerg.Schilling at fokus.fraunhofer.de>
>> Subject: Re: No good CD-Rom copy software
>> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:36:42 +0200
>>
>> so apparently he's subscribed to the list. Any reason why you need to do
>> a 'man-in-the-middle' here?
> 
> after it was 'approved' by a moderator, unless he's subscribbed in the
> last 12 hours, Jorg told me last week he is not on this list.
> 
> 
> 
>> Recommend that you go back to the original thread and comment there.
> 
> recommend you learn how to use a real mail client
> 
> 
> 
>>
>> On 07/06/2009 03:49 PM, Res wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks Jorg, this only confirms mine and others suspicions..
>>>
>>> Oli, and others: forwarded to the list so you dont have to wait a
>>> week for the mod to approve the post.
>>>
>>> So, Oli, what has Ubuntu got to say about this....., also please CC Jorg
>>> directly in Emails reference this issue (as he is not a member of
>>> this list).
>>>
>>> Res
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 23:25:46
>>> From: Joerg Schilling <Joerg.Schilling at fokus.fraunhofer.de>
>>> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com, res at ausics.net
>>> Subject: Re: No good CD-Rom copy software
>>>
>>> Res <res at ausics.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well, then lets hear Jorgs point of view on this...
>>>> I will gladly report his reply to the list if he says thats OK,
>>>> given he
>>>> is not a member so you wont have to wait a week for the mod to see and
>>>> approve his post to the list.
>>>>
>>>> Jorg for your reference, the stated reason was linked to in an earler
>>>> reply I've already deleted, but this is the archive that they
>>>> pointed to:
>>>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-news-team/2009-February/000413.html
>>>>
>>>
>>> Just a note, this does not contain not an official statement from Eben
>>> Moglen, there is only a POV claim from Mark Shuttleworth and this is
>>> definitely wrong :-(
>>>
>>> Eben Moglen did tell me in several private mails that there is no
>>> license problem
>>> with cdrtools. Moglen send me even mail that explains why the claims
>>> about the
>>> so-called GPL CDDL incompatibility as found on the FSF websites are
>>> wrong.
>>>
>>> I am sure that Moglen will never make a public claim that could
>>> support the
>>> statement from Mark Shuttleworth.
>>>
>>> Note that The Sun legal department did make a full legal review on
>>> the cdrtools
>>> project and did not find any license problem.
>>>
>>> Note that the book from an independend lawyer (Lawrence Rosen - the
>>> lawyer of
>>> the OpenSource Inittiative) wrote a book on OSS licenses that
>>> explains the GPL
>>> in a word level granularity (see:
>>> http://www.rosenlaw.com/Rosen_Ch06.pdf) and
>>> that explains why none of the claims made by the  non-cooperative Debian
>>> package maintainer that initated the dispute is valid.
>>>
>>> Jörg
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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> 
	Here is what I hate about Lawyers:

lawsuits or to protect the licensor’s trademarks can be very useful;
both provisions are missing from the GPL.
In practice, the Free Software Foundation’s restriction on
adding restrictions has had the effect of allowing them to veto
any restriction they find unacceptable—even those that are
improvements over the GPL. Their avoidance of restrictions
has delayed the adoption of new and useful licensing concepts
for open source software. This topic will be addressed again

	The above is from Lawyer Rosen's idea of what the GPL should look like.
It is instead a offer to take something to court!


	I think Joerg Schilling has a perfect right to hate the GPL too. They
seem to think He is subversive or even maybe not an American! So we
can't trust him very far. Too bad he writes excellent code.


73 Karl




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