No good CD-Rom copy software (fwd)

[Karl F. Larsen]

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NoOp wrote:
> Top posted on purpose.
> 
> Two questions:
> 
> 1. Why is it that you can't seem to figure out how to post in the
> original thread and instead continue to spawn these new posts?
> 
> 2. 'Joerg'/Jörg Joerg Schilling <Joerg.Schilling at fokus.fraunhofer.de>
> posted on this list previously
> 
> Message-ID: <4a48993a.5OvWfFQn9ND8gJni%Joerg.Schilling at fokus.fraunhofer.de>
> Subject: Re: No good CD-Rom copy software
> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:36:42 +0200
> 
> so apparently he's subscribed to the list. Any reason why you need to do
> a 'man-in-the-middle' here?
> 
> Recommend that you go back to the original thread and comment there.
> 
> 
> On 07/06/2009 03:49 PM, Res wrote:
>> Thanks Jorg, this only confirms mine and others suspicions..
>>
>> Oli, and others: forwarded to the list so you dont have to wait a week for 
>> the mod to approve the post.
>>
>> So, Oli, what has Ubuntu got to say about this....., also please CC Jorg
>> directly in Emails reference this issue (as he is not a member of this list).
>>
>> Res
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 23:25:46
>> From: Joerg Schilling <Joerg.Schilling at fokus.fraunhofer.de>
>> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com, res at ausics.net
>> Subject: Re: No good CD-Rom copy software
>>
>> Res <res at ausics.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Well, then lets hear Jorgs point of view on this...
>>> I will gladly report his reply to the list if he says thats OK, given he
>>> is not a member so you wont have to wait a week for the mod to see and
>>> approve his post to the list.
>>>
>>> Jorg for your reference, the stated reason was linked to in an earler
>>> reply I've already deleted, but this is the archive that they pointed to:
>>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-news-team/2009-February/000413.html
>> Just a note, this does not contain not an official statement from Eben
>> Moglen, there is only a POV claim from Mark Shuttleworth and this is
>> definitely wrong :-(
>>
>> Eben Moglen did tell me in several private mails that there is no license problem
>> with cdrtools. Moglen send me even mail that explains why the claims about the
>> so-called GPL CDDL incompatibility as found on the FSF websites are wrong.
>>
>> I am sure that Moglen will never make a public claim that could support the
>> statement from Mark Shuttleworth.
>>
>> Note that The Sun legal department did make a full legal review on the cdrtools
>> project and did not find any license problem.
>>
>> Note that the book from an independend lawyer (Lawrence Rosen - the lawyer of
>> the OpenSource Inittiative) wrote a book on OSS licenses that explains the GPL
>> in a word level granularity (see: http://www.rosenlaw.com/Rosen_Ch06.pdf) and
>> that explains why none of the claims made by the  non-cooperative Debian
>> package maintainer that initated the dispute is valid.
>>
>> Jörg
>>
>>
> 
> 
> 
	I think it has gone far enough in this rather stupid talk stage. It
appears that people who hold positions of importance have decided it is
better for Ubuntu to use a really broken CD-Rom read/write software
because they can't get along with the author of software that works just
fine. I, as a Ubuntu user have d/l the cdrecord software from the author
and I have used it.

	It works fine and I am working on a more general config file for  this
so it takes just a bash call to get it to copy, record, and playback any
CD and DVD. But this takes me back to 1995 when I first used cdrecord on
Slackware!!!


73 Karl


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