SSH hacked?

Knapp magick.crow at
Thu Jan 15 22:29:34 UTC 2009

On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 10:16 PM, Brian McKee <brian.mckee at> wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Knapp <magick.crow at> wrote:
> > I just accepted the DEV GOD's when they said sudo was better than su but
> I
> > never understood why that was so.
> Here's some reasons that stand out to me.
> - if more than one person has root access (more common in business
> than home) each person in effect has their own root password - when
> one person leaves the company you don't have to do anything more than
> lock him out.
> - you can be more specific with sudo - e.g. let this guy over here do
> backups but not add printers, or that guy do backups but not play with
> the webserver, etc. etc. etc.
> - Everything done via sudo is logged in /var/log - so you KNOW what
> they did, and who did it.

Great reasons for a work site or maybe even my house once I get teens aged
kids. (still have a few years)

If of course each user has their own account - which you've blown out
> of the water in your house.

Yes, but I am sure this is VERY common. It also in 3 years has not proven to
be a problem at all.

If you want to keep that up, why not take that account out of the
> admin group and create a new account just for admin stuff?  That way
> none of you can accidentally blow up something...

At first I thought that was a great idea, but then I thought that has been
done and it is called root.

> - sudo 'expires' so that a half an hour later you aren't still root
> when you throw out that folder you don't need anymore...

Yes, but you still need to type sudo to do anything really dumb. Also I
mostly toss stuff with the gui {trash stops most stupidity} as a none root
user. As a home users there really are not many root files that get edited
and tossed out, ever. Updating is about the only common root activity on a
home computer after the first install is done and the week after that, were
you tweek everything.

> Brian

I am not trying to say my way is right or best but just simply common
because it is easy to do it that way. As a home user, ease of use and
laziness come first. Sad but true. Any system made for home users must come
to terms with this fact. As a home users, I want simple fast and easy but of
course bleeding edge with massive power. LOL

Douglas E Knapp

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