Thread hijacking

[NoOp]

On 12/16/2009 05:05 PM, Christopher Chan wrote:
> NoOp wrote:
>> On 12/16/2009 10:16 AM, Alan McKay wrote:
>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Odd <iodine at runbox.no> wrote:
>>>> What's the point of a mailing list if private/direct replies should be
>>>> the norm?
>>> It seems to be the RFC purists who drag out this bit of nonsense from
>>> time-to-time on most of the lists out there.
>>>
>>> The RFC clearly states that replies should be to the individual.
>>>
>>>
>> 
>> Can you please cite the RFC? Not disputing, just curious & would like to
>> read it. Thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> This should explain it.
> 
> http://woozle.org/~neale/papers/reply-to-still-harmful.html
> 
> Relevant portion if you do not wish to read the whole thing.
> 
> "In April of 2001, the IETF issued af new document, RFC 2822, which 
> obsoletes RFC 822. In this new RFC, the author addresses the Reply-To 
> header field in a few places, but the most relevant to this discussion 
> is the following in section 3.6.2 "Originator fields":
> 
>      When the "Reply-To:" field is present, it indicates the mailbox(es) 
> to which the author of the message suggests that replies be sent."
> 
> 
> Another portion of the article for those who say 2822 is old and obsolete.
> 
> "How to specify where to post list messages
> 
> RFC 2369 specifies, in section 3.4, the List-Post header field:
> 
>      The List-Post field describes the method for posting to the list. 
> This is typically the address of the list, but MAY be a moderator, or 
> potentially some other form of submission. For the special case of a 
> list that does not allow posting (e.g., an announcements list), the 
> List-Post field may contain the special value "NO".
> 
> Modern mail list software sets this header field, or provides some 
> mechanism for the administrator to set it."
> 

Well, I've had a look and I suppose others with better understanding of
lists can comment (and yes I do indeed know the RFC system), but maybe
I'm not understanding. This list seems to comply:

> Precedence: list
> Reply-To: "Ubuntu user technical support,
> 	not for general discussions" <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> List-Id: "Ubuntu user technical support,
> 	not for general discussions" <ubuntu-users.lists.ubuntu.com>
> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users>,
> 	<mailto:ubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com?subject=unsubscribe>
> List-Archive: <https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users>
> List-Post: <mailto:ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> List-Help: <mailto:ubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com?subject=help>
> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users>,
> 	<mailto:ubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com?subject=subscribe>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> Sender: ubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com
> Errors-To: ubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com

And again, not disputing, just trying to understand that issue.

But then again, I suppose that discussing this further in this thread is
indeed 'Thread hijacking' eh :-) Perhaps we can start a new thread over
in sounder to discuss further. Thanks for the info & we now return back
to 'Thread hijacking'... :-)