ubuntu-users Digest, Vol 56, Issue 147

Tue Apr 14 10:42:47 UTC 2009

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>   1. Re: Edubuntu? (Roy Smith)
>   2. Re: Movie Player (Roy Smith)
>   3. Re: help (Roy Smith)
>   4. Re: ubuntu-users Digest, Vol 56, Issue 139 (Roy Smith)
>   5. Re: help (Evans Jahja)
>   6. Re: Wireless Internet (Evans Jahja)
>   7. Re: Alternate option f11 gain access to - minimize (Roy Smith)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 00:57:26 -0400
> From: Roy Smith <rasmith1959 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Edubuntu?
> To: "Ubuntu user technical support,     not for general discussions"
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> Chris Mohler wrote:
>> On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 6:47 PM, Ugly Me <ugly at frightenstein.com> wrote:
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>>> I am still puzzled. Where does one download Edubuntu?  My best current guess
>>> is that I have to download Ubuntu (possibly Kubuntu) and download some patch
>>> or add-on to create Edubuntu. Is this really the case?
>>>
>>
>> http://edubuntu.org/
>>
>> Edubuntu is really just a collection of software - so it is possible
>> to install via Synaptic et al, but they should have ISOs at the
>> edubuntu site.
>>
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> They do, there are two iso's available there, one is the regular Ubuntu
> 8.10 desktop and the other is the add-on packages that make up the
> Edubuntu distro.  One could always just get the regular Ubuntu distro,
> then through Synaptic or apt-get add on the edubuntu-desktop which would
> amount to the same thing as getting the add-on iso.
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> Roy Smith
> Ubuntu 8.10 Intrepid Ibex
> Registered Linux User #488144
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 01:12:09 -0400
> From: Roy Smith <rasmith1959 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Movie Player
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> Karl F. Larsen wrote:
>> Roy Smith wrote:
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>>> Karl F. Larsen wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>     The title is the new name for Totem. It is terrible software I and
>>>> thousands others have replaced with the VLC software. In all versions of
>>>> Ubuntu up to Jaunty I have been able to remove Totem from my computer.
>>>> On Jaunty it appears it is not possible to kill this poor excuse of a
>>>> Movie  Player.
>>>>
>>>>     As it is now I must specify use of VLC on every thing I use. Not
>>>> doing that causes Movie Player to come up and want to find new drivers
>>>> so it can show me what VLC does out of the BOX!
>>>>
>>>>     Is there somewhere I can tell Ubuntu to use VLC instead of
>>>> Totem/Movie Player?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> You might want to take a look at this from the Ubuntu forums:
>>>
>>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=766683
>>>
>>> This goes through the steps to set up Ubuntu for all kinds of multimedia
>>> stuff, from playing DVD's to MP3's.  There's even a section in there
>>> that will tell you how to make VLC the default movie player...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>     Thank you. That is quite a good place to go. I found the part on
>> changing from totem to vlc and it worked without a fault.
>>
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> You're welcome.  I could have just posted the section on making VLC the
> default player, but I figured that since you're a newbie, like me, that
> you'd like to see the rest of the article.  Yes you read that right, I'm
> a newbie to Ubuntu too... only been using it for about 3 weeks now...
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> Roy Smith
> Ubuntu 8.10 Intrepid Ibex
> Registered Linux User #488144
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 01:34:19 -0400
> From: Roy Smith <rasmith1959 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: help
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> Amedee Van Gasse (ubuntu) wrote:
>> Steve Reilly schreef:
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>> > Amedee Van Gasse (ubuntu) wrote:
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>> >> But still I don't know any good reason why someone would install a 4
>> >> year old version of Ubuntu on a 10 year old desktop pc, if a current
>> >> version of Ubuntu is just as good.
>> >>
>> > agreed, i cant say for 9.04 but 8.04 runs fine on several "ex" win 98
>> > computers ive given away over the last several months.  had to upgrade
>> > the ram from 128 to 256, mind you they arent smokin fast, but fine for
>> > web surfing, open office, etc.  one of them i threw a 128mb nvidia card
>> > in, and runs any linux 3d game you can throw at it.  havent had 1 call
>> > from anyone about i cant run this, or i cant open that. in fact theyre
>> > all pretty impressed that they were immune from the lastest windows
>> > nonsense viruses and worms about lately.
>>
>> Agreed, memory is the only issue for 10 year old computers. If a memory
>> upgrade isn't possible, use Puppy Linux: it is optimized for a small
>> memory.
>> Sure it's not Ubuntu, but it's Linux. I bet that given enough time, say
>> a couple of weeks, I could create an Ubuntu-based Linux that also has an
>> extremely low memory footprint, if I wanted to. And so could anyone else
>> who follows this mailing list. I'm sure that the documentation already
>> exists in the wiki, it's just a simple matter of piecing everything
>> together.
> If memory is a problem, wouldn't Xubuntu be a good solution for those
> instances?  Sure it may not have all the bells and whistles of a Gnome
> of KDE desktop, but it should be compact enough for a pc with less than
> 128 MB, right?
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> Roy Smith
> Ubuntu 8.10 Intrepid Ibex
> Registered Linux User #488144
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 01:39:16 -0400
> From: Roy Smith <rasmith1959 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: ubuntu-users Digest, Vol 56, Issue 139
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> Amedee Van Gasse (ubuntu) wrote:
>> Allen Meyers schreef:
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>> *cut*
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>> OMG... PLEASE!!!
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>> Your email is waaaaay too long.
>> Do you know what "TL;DR" means? It's shorthand for "Too Long; Didn't Read"
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>> Please please please cut away the parts that are not relevant.
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> What?  There was a question in all that crap?  :-)
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> Roy Smith
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 22:51:39 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Evans Jahja <smkururu at rocketmail.com>
> Subject: Re: help
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> Roy Smith wrote:
>> Amedee Van Gasse (ubuntu) wrote:
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>>> Steve Reilly schreef:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Amedee Van Gasse (ubuntu) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> But still I don't know any good reason why someone would install a 4
>>>>> year old version of Ubuntu on a 10 year old desktop pc, if a current
>>>>> version of Ubuntu is just as good.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> agreed, i cant say for 9.04 but 8.04 runs fine on several "ex" win 98
>>>> computers ive given away over the last several months.  had to upgrade
>>>> the ram from 128 to 256, mind you they arent smokin fast, but fine for
>>>> web surfing, open office, etc.  one of them i threw a 128mb nvidia card
>>>> in, and runs any linux 3d game you can throw at it.  havent had 1 call
>>>> from anyone about i cant run this, or i cant open that. in fact theyre
>>>> all pretty impressed that they were immune from the lastest windows
>>>> nonsense viruses and worms about lately.
>>>>
>>> Agreed, memory is the only issue for 10 year old computers. If a memory
>>> upgrade isn't possible, use Puppy Linux: it is optimized for a small
>>> memory.
>>> Sure it's not Ubuntu, but it's Linux. I bet that given enough time, say
>>> a couple of weeks, I could create an Ubuntu-based Linux that also has an
>>> extremely low memory footprint, if I wanted to. And so could anyone else
>>> who follows this mailing list. I'm sure that the documentation already
>>> exists in the wiki, it's just a simple matter of piecing everything
>>> together.
>>>
>> If memory is a problem, wouldn't Xubuntu be a good solution for those
>> instances?  Sure it may not have all the bells and whistles of a Gnome
>> of KDE desktop, but it should be compact enough for a pc with less than
>> 128 MB, right?
>>
>>
> I agree, you should use Xubuntu. By the way, next time, try to use a
> more descriptive Subject instead of "help" or "urgent".That way we'll
> able to help you better.
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 22:53:38 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Evans Jahja <smkururu at rocketmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Wireless Internet
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
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> BT Bennett wrote:
>> I need help setting up my wireless internet. Also, how do i figure out what my SSID, Mode, BSSID, MAC address and MTU is?
>>
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>> I need help setting up my wireless internet. Also, how do i figure out
>> what my SSID, Mode, BSSID, MAC address and MTU is?
>>
>>
> First of all, did Ubuntu able to detect your wireless? If yes, there
> should be an icon of it in the tray.
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> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 01:56:05 -0400
> From: Roy Smith <rasmith1959 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Alternate option f11 gain access to - minimize
> To: chef11994 at sbcglobal.net, "Ubuntu user technical support,    not for
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> Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 06:38:41 -0700
> From: Thorny <thorntreehome at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Alternate option f11 gain access to - minimize
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
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>>>
> On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 06:01:27 -0600, allen meyers posted:
>>>
>>>> On a much more frequent basis my available screen takes over everything.
>>>> Depressing f11 either once or twice only revels the - a nano second. And
>>>> in gmail when this happens even bookmarks and as an example clicking
>>>> Ubuntu forum does nothing. The screen is like frozen. Again to make
> myself
>>>> clear pressing f11 only moves the screen down for a moment. Please advise
>>>>
>> Allen, it always a good idea to remember that we aren't looking over your
>> shoulder at your screen, so you need to describe the environment as if we
>> are blind (because, in essence, we are to what you are seeing. When I read
>> your post, I am trying to form an image in my mind of what you are looking
>> at so I can try and think of how to answer you.
>>>
>> Presumably, you're writing about the behaviour of your Firefox, but I'm
>> just guessing with that. F11 should toggle full-screen mode of the
>> browser, and it does with mine. If we are indeed talking about Firefox, do
>> you have any add-ons (extensions) loaded, what version is your FF? Does
>> this "takeover" happen in relation to any specific conditions (things
>> you are trying to do at the time), on a seemingly random basis or all
>> the time?
>>>
> Thorny:
>> Again apology for my forgetting your not looking over my shoulder. My
>> firebox version is 3.0.8
>> and the take over so far occurs in gmail which gives me access to this
>> post as an example but
>> no ability to minimize. f11 causes the screen to reveal the minus sign
>> and the capability to minimize
>> so briefly it is impossible to do so before it returns to that full
>> takeover of the screen. Sorry its best I can do in describing it. My
>> only other option is evolution mail which works great but no access to
>> my bookmarks. Hope that last comment does not further confuse my
>> narration. As far as add-ons (extensions) best of my memory none. I
>> use the browser to hook up to Internet, install all available updates,
>> but do nothing specific to fine tune firebox if that is what you were
>> asking.
>
> Sorry for not following the full thread of this message, but are you
> having a problem with Firefox covering up the panels at the top and
> bottom of the screen?  If so the this is what I did to correct the
> problem.  First install the compiz-settings-manager either through
> Synaptic or apt-get in a terminal.  Once the install is complete, open
> the settings manager through System-Preferences-Compiz Settings
> Manager.  When the window opens click on Utility on the left side, then
> click on Workarounds.  In the Workarounds window, look at the line that
> says Legacy Full Screen Support, if there is a check mark in the box
> click on it to clear it.  Then just click on close until you are back to
> your desktop.
>
> This cleared up the problem for me.  Hopefully it will for you too.
>
> Good Luck!
>
> --
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> Roy Smith
> Ubuntu 8.10 Intrepid Ibex

Re: Alternate option f11 gain access to - minimize

Roy
Much obliged for the reply and it did indeed solve my problem. Thanks
to all of you for your help.

Allen
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