ubuntu-users Digest, Vol 56, Issue 139
Allen Meyers
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Mon Apr 13 14:37:30 UTC 2009
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> 1. GoogleEarth which way to install it...??? (Larry Shields)
> 2. Re: Jaunty updates not ready (Karl F. Larsen)
> 3. Re: Jaunty updates not ready (Amedee Van Gasse (ubuntu))
> 4. Re: Jaunty updates not ready, fixed (Cybe R. Wizard)
> 5. Re: Movie Player (Thorny)
> 6. Re: GoogleEarth which way to install it...??? (Evans Jahja)
> 7. Re: Jaunty updates not ready (Karl F. Larsen)
> 8. Re: Alternate option f11 gain access to - minimize (Thorny)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 07:46:00 -0500
> From: Larry Shields <larryesu at charter.net>
> Subject: GoogleEarth which way to install it...???
> To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions"
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> *Ok fellows, here I go once again asking for help on which way I should
> install Google Earth for it to work when installed...Should I download
> it from Google, or from Synaptic, since I had a problem in getting it to
> work last week...
>
> I was told that the file libcrypto.so.0.9.8 was the problem, and to
> delete it, or rename it, so after messing with that file, my system
> would not bootup gdm...I did a complete reinstall of Jaunty, so far
> everything is working just fine, this time just maybe things will work
> out for the best...
>
> So any suggestions on which way to install it would be appreciated...
>
> All so thanks to everyone who replied back to my problem last week...
>
> Thanks Larry
> *
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 06:46:26 -0600
> From: "Karl F. Larsen" <klarsen1 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Jaunty updates not ready
> To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions"
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> Thorny wrote:
>> On Sun, 12 Apr 2009 21:10:51 -0600, Karl F. Larsen posted:
>>
>>
>>> Mark Kirkwood wrote:
>>>
>>>> Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Mark Kirkwood <markir at paradise.net.nz> said:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Usually doing
>>>>>>
>>>>>> $ sudo aptitude update
>>>>>>
>>>>>> will fix that - but clearly does not in your case.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> If you look back on Karl's post you'll see that he never did do <sudo
>>>>> aptitude update>. He did <sudo aptitude upgrade> twice and <sudo
>>>>> aptitude safe-upgrade> once.
>>>>>
>>>>> @ Karl, you still need to do <sudo aptitude update> /first/ before
>>>>> anything will work. Otherwise you are trying to upgrade to already
>>>>> existing packages.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Nice catch - I misread what Karl had written!
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Yes my bad. I see from my recorded first effort I did first update
>>> and second safe-update. I just did it your way and it did the "update" and
>>> that looks good, and now the "safe-update" is still working with lots of
>>> updates being got from the mirror's.
>>>
>>> I will send both to this list when it's done in a few minutes like
>>> 15 minutes it says :-)
>>>
>>> Karl
>>>
>>
>> Karl, it's not clear to me that this stuff is clear to you yet from what
>> you wrote above.
>>
>> Note that "update", updates the package files lists and "upgrade"
>> (safe-upgrade) is the actual upgrade process which can be followed by
>> "dist-upgrade" (full-upgrade). We all tend to throw the update/upgrade
>> words around with their connotations in the English language. However,
>> they have specific meanings when used in the context of upgrading a distro.
>>
>>
>>
>>
> I read man aptitude and then I understood what was wanted and it
> works very well.
>
> Karl
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 14:47:16 +0200
> From: "Amedee Van Gasse (ubuntu)" <amedee-ubuntu at amedee.be>
> Subject: Re: Jaunty updates not ready
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> Karl F. Larsen schreef:
>> Mark Kirkwood wrote:
>>> Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
>>>
>>>> Mark Kirkwood <markir at paradise.net.nz> said:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Usually doing
>>>>>
>>>>> $ sudo aptitude update
>>>>>
>>>>> will fix that - but clearly does not in your case.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> If you look back on Karl's post you'll see that he never did do
>>>> <sudo aptitude update>. He did <sudo aptitude upgrade> twice and <sudo
>>>> aptitude safe-upgrade> once.
>>>>
>>>> @ Karl, you still need to do <sudo aptitude update> /first/ before
>>>> anything will work. Otherwise you are trying to upgrade to already
>>>> existing packages.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Nice catch - I misread what Karl had written!
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>
>>>
>> Yes my bad. I see from my recorded first effort I did first update
>> and second safe-update. I just did it your way and it did the "update"
>> and that looks good, and now the "safe-update" is still working with
>> lots of updates being got from the mirror's.
>>
>> I will send both to this list when it's done in a few minutes like
>> 15 minutes it says :-)
>>
>> Karl
>>
> Karl, in addition to what Thorny wrote:
>
> There are 3 aptitude commands that you have to know:
>
> update -> fetch a new package list
> safe-upgrade -> upgrade packages without messing with dependencies
> full-upgrade -> upgrade packages, and install or uninstall dependencies
> if needed.
>
> You shouldn't use these commands:
>
> upgrade -> old, deprecated
> dist-upgrade -> old, deprecated
> safe-update -> does not exist
>
> Be careful, spelling really matters.
>
> I understand that the difference between update and upgrade may be
> difficult for a native English speaker like you because they are
> synonyms. This is when being a non-native actually becomes an advantage. ;-)
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 07:49:04 -0500
> From: "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard at earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: Jaunty updates not ready, fixed
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
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> "Karl F. Larsen" <klarsen1 at gmail.com> said:
>> Aptitude Update used by (sudo aptitude update) does something
>> to my computer, I think. According to man aptitude, it Updates the
>> list of available packages from the apt sources. And this list is
>> stored on my computer. This I was not aware of.
>>
>> Aptitude safe-upgrade installs the latest version of the
>> available updates and is safer than asking for a full-upgrade.
>>
>> I find that man aptitude is quite a good reference. And the
>> sequential use of Update and then Safe-upgrade makes a lot of sense,
>> and in my case it worked.
>>
>> It appears my Beta version of Jaunty is updated to the latest
>> versions it has on the mirrors. Thanks all who helped me do it.
>>
>> Karl
>
> I'm glad you finally got it scoped out and working, Karl.
>
> Cybe R. Wizard
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 05:50:19 -0700
> From: Thorny <thorntreehome at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Movie Player
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
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> On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 05:33:36 -0400, a_puzzeled_newbie(^_^); posted:
> [...]
> ...but no one yet has answered this person
>> yet where to tell the OS that HE/SHE wants vlc which also is a great
>> player i may add...
> [...]
>
> Actually someone (poster Roy Smith) did give a link to the information.
>
> Since you sign yourself as "a_puzzled_newbie" I'll suggest it's always a
> good policy to read all the threads in a topic before answering, that way
> you'll determine if something needs to be contributed or not. I don't mean
> this as a criticism of you, just something that might help a newbie learn
> how to best use the list.
>
> It looks like you are trying to learn how to post in text only, that is a
> good thing, you only had a bit of the "mixed" in this post.
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 05:51:25 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Evans Jahja <smkururu at rocketmail.com>
> Subject: Re: GoogleEarth which way to install it...???
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Message-ID: <113328.84212.qm at web43416.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
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>
> Larry Shields wrote:
>> *Ok fellows, here I go once again asking for help on which way I should
>> install Google Earth for it to work when installed...Should I download
>> it from Google, or from Synaptic, since I had a problem in getting it to
>> work last week...
>>
>> I was told that the file libcrypto.so.0.9.8 was the problem, and to
>> delete it, or rename it, so after messing with that file, my system
>> would not bootup gdm...I did a complete reinstall of Jaunty, so far
>> everything is working just fine, this time just maybe things will work
>> out for the best...
>>
>> So any suggestions on which way to install it would be appreciated...
>>
>> All so thanks to everyone who replied back to my problem last week...
>>
>> Thanks Larry
>> *
>>
>>
> I guess you should download it from Synaptic, but I'm not sure. Synaptic
> should be able to handle dependencies.
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 07:29:12 -0600
> From: "Karl F. Larsen" <klarsen1 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Jaunty updates not ready
> To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions"
> <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
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> Amedee Van Gasse (ubuntu) wrote:
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>> Karl F. Larsen schreef:
>>
>>> Amedee Van Gasse (Ubuntu) wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, April 12, 2009 22:22, Karl F. Larsen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I have Jaunty on my laptop and it is working fine but their appears
>>>>> to be a problem with some of the mirrors or who knows. In any case I open
>>>>> Up-Date Manager and it reports there are 90 updates available. But
>>>>> when it tries to d/l the updates it spits out error panels saying it can
>>>>> not find some things.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Open a terminal and type the following:
>>>>
>>>> sudo aptitude update
>>>>
>>>> followed by
>>>>
>>>> sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
>>>>
>>>> Send the output of both commands to the mailing list.
>>>> Also show us a copy of your /etc/apt/sources.list
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> If your results are different I would like to know. I am in New
>>>>> Mexico USA.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I don't think that your location on the planet will make a difference. ;-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Here is what you asked for:
>>>
>>>
>> *snip*
>>
>> Sorry, I didn't see the following:
>>
>> sudo aptitude update
>>
>> That's update, not upgrade.
>> Also, you should use safe-upgrade. It is identical to the old upgrade,
>> but the old upgrade is deprecated.
>>
>> And could you also put a copy of your /etc/sources.list online?
>>
>> I suggest that you make a backup copy of that file, and then in the
>> original file, replace every "us.archive.ubuntu.com" with
>> "archive.ubuntu.com".
>> Just as a test, to rule out any problems with your local Ubuntu mirror.
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> #deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 9.04 _Jaunty Jackalope_ - Beta i386 (20090324)]/
> jaunty main restricted
> # See http://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for how to upgrade to
> # newer versions of the distribution.
>
> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty main restricted
> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty main restricted
>
> ## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the
> ## distribution.
> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty-updates main restricted
> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty-updates main restricted
>
> ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
> ## team. Also, please note that software in universe WILL NOT receive any
> ## review or updates from the Ubuntu security team.
> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty universe
> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty universe
> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty-updates universe
> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty-updates universe
>
> ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
> ## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to
> ## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in
> ## multiverse WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu
> ## security team.
> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty multiverse
> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty multiverse
> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty-updates multiverse
> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty-updates multiverse
>
> ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'backports'
> ## repository.
> ## N.B. software from this repository may not have been tested as
> ## extensively as that contained in the main release, although it includes
> ## newer versions of some applications which may provide useful features.
> ## Also, please note that software in backports WILL NOT receive any review
> ## or updates from the Ubuntu security team.
> # deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty-backports main
> restricted universe multiverse
> # deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty-backports main
> restricted universe multiverse
>
> ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from Canonical's
> ## 'partner' repository.
> ## This software is not part of Ubuntu, but is offered by Canonical and the
> ## respective vendors as a service to Ubuntu users.
> # deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu jaunty partner
> # deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu jaunty partner
>
> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jaunty-security main restricted
> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jaunty-security main restricted
> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jaunty-security universe
> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jaunty-security universe
> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jaunty-security multiverse
> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jaunty-security multiverse
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 06:38:41 -0700
> From: Thorny <thorntreehome at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Alternate option f11 gain access to - minimize
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> On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 06:01:27 -0600, allen meyers posted:
>
>> On a much more frequent basis my available screen takes over everything.
>> Depressing f11 either once or twice only revels the - a nano second. And
>> in gmail when this happens even bookmarks and as an example clicking
>> Ubuntu forum does nothing. The screen is like frozen. Again to make myself
>> clear pressing f11 only moves the screen down for a moment. Please advise
>>
>
> Allen, it always a good idea to remember that we aren't looking over your
> shoulder at your screen, so you need to describe the environment as if we
> are blind (because, in essence, we are to what you are seeing. When I read
> your post, I am trying to form an image in my mind of what you are looking
> at so I can try and think of how to answer you.
>
> Presumably, you're writing about the behaviour of your Firefox, but I'm
> just guessing with that. F11 should toggle full-screen mode of the
> browser, and it does with mine. If we are indeed talking about Firefox, do
> you have any add-ons (extensions) loaded, what version is your FF? Does
> this "takeover" happen in relation to any specific conditions (things
> you are trying to do at the time), on a seemingly random basis or all
> the time?
>
>Thorny:
Again apology for my forgetting your not looking over my shoulder. My
firebox version is 3.0.8
and the take over so far occurs in gmail which gives me access to this
post as an example but
no ability to minimize. f11 causes the screen to reveal the minus sign
and the capability to minimize
so briefly it is impossible to do so before it returns to that full
takeover of the screen. Sorry its best I can do in describing it. My
only other option is evolution mail which works great but no access to
my bookmarks. Hope that last comment does not further confuse my
narration. As far as add-ons (extensions) best of my memory none. I
use the browser to hook up to Internet, install all available updates,
but do nothing specific to fine tune firebox if that is what you were
asking.
Allen
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