Potential School Wide Linux Implementation (Tommy)

Nay Myo Win rim.riaz at gmail.com
Mon Apr 6 06:31:06 UTC 2009


Hey buddy,

Instead of using gradebook, use moodle instead.
it support in Ubuntu.


thanks
Tommy

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>   1. Re: Potential School Wide Linux Implementation (Christopher Chan)
>   2. Re: Jaunty beta - lost my nvidia drivers (Leonard Chatagnier)
>   3. Re: Jaunty beta - lost my nvidia drivers (Ray Parrish)
>   4. Re: 3GiB ram, gnome-system-monitor now says 2.9GiB
>      (Matthew Flaschen)
>   5. Re: /home partition (Matthew Flaschen)
>   6. Re: problem with chmod (Bret Busby)
>   7. Re: problem with chmod (Bret Busby)
>   8. Re: /home partition (Ray Parrish)
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Christopher Chan <christopher.chan at bradbury.edu.hk>
> To: tholmes at mcaschool.net, "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general
> discussions" <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 11:39:50 +0800
> Subject: Re: Potential School Wide Linux Implementation
> Hello Tim,
>
> I am also an one man IT shop for a school.
>
> Tim Holmes wrote:
>
>> Hello Folks:
>>
>> I am the One Man IT shop for Medina Christian Academy, and am facing a
>> potential situation that i am trying to avert in the future. I am currently
>> a largely Windows XP (fully patched and updated) network built on a Windows
>> Server 2003 Active Directory domain. I have some samba servers for file
>> servers and an APACHE web development server. We have ~150 desktops spread
>> between the classrooms, offices and computer lab. The computers are mostly
>> roughly 5 year old Pentium 4 gateways mostly have 40 gb hdd, onboard sound
>> and video cards and between 512 and 1024 mb memory
>>
>>  I take it that the samba servers share the same RID database?
>
>>
>> -- Printing -- we have a number of printers across the network -- couple
>> of which are all in one type units by keyocera - and all stations/users need
>> to be able to print -- so that means samba print server -- again -- probably
>> take some development work but i am pretty sure it can be done.
>>
> If you switch to Linux, you drop samba for all but remaining Windows hosts.
>
>>
>> -- domain (or whatever its called in linux) -- users need to be able to
>> sign in on any computer, and have their files accessable similar to what
>> happens when a user logs into a windows domain.
>>
> Been there, done that. You need to configure kerberos and in my case,
> winbind and add pam authentication via winbind and user info lookup via
> winbind. Then you can keep the AD if that makes user management easier for
> you or you do not wish to migrate user accounts or you will still have some
> Windows clients left.
>
>>
>> -- Our School management software / gradebook -- not available in linux,
>> but im wondering about using crossover office / wine or possibly VMWARE --
>> i'll need input on that -- its a client server app sort of the gradebook
>> writes out text files that are imported into the main application which is
>> based on microsoft access databases with a custom written interface -- might
>> have to run a Virtual windows 2003 server to run the server portion of it --
>> and like wine or something for the users to access it -- i dont know
>>
> Best if it works with wine...otherwise, you will still need them XP
> licenses to run in a kvm guest or something.
>
>>
>> -- backup -- we have a quantum loader, so one way or another we'll need to
>> be able to back stuff up
>>
> You can choose to have one or more online (and maybe offsite) backup server
> loaded with big fat disks. I do not have tape backup anymore. With 500GB of
> data and growing, the tape backup system is no joke. Might as well just do
> HA and have multiple backup servers.
>
>>
>> -- file servers -- ive got a couple linux file servers now -- but they are
>> running samba i dont know how to share stuff via linux
>>
> NFS, Gluster, lots of choices...all depend on how you want to manage your
> data. But first, you first need to make sure that uids/gids are identical
> across all Linux boxes...whether servers or desktops. If you will still have
> a few Windows desktops for office staff, then it is best you keep the AD if
> you need group policies on the remaining desktops or you could consider
> converting over to NT style domains instead of AD.
>
>>
>> im sure there are things that i have forgotten so if anyone has ideas /
>> suggestions please chime in.
>>
>> I am tentatively planning to use kubuntu, for the desktop environmen, and
>> this project (if it goes) at least for now would be deployed summer of 2010
>> for use beginning in the fall of 2010
>>
> Do you use group policies to limit what the kids can see? If so, the only
> easy to use equivalent on desktop environments available in Linux is KDE 3.x
> using the kiosktool. With that, you can assign desktop profiles to groups
> and control what the different users can see or use on their box.
>
> Christopher
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Leonard Chatagnier <lenc5570 at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" <
> ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 21:02:19 -0700 (PDT)
> Subject: Re: Jaunty beta - lost my nvidia drivers
>
>
> --- On Sun, 4/5/09, sdavmor <sdavmor at systemstheory.net> wrote:
>
> > From: sdavmor <sdavmor at systemstheory.net>
> > Subject: Jaunty beta - lost my nvidia drivers
> > To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" <
> ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> > Date: Sunday, April 5, 2009, 9:06 PM
> > I'm back to using the open drivers right now because the
> > latest update
> > crashed the nvidia video on reboot.  Downgrading the
> > proprietary
> > drivers from 180 to 173 doesn't help. I see that this
> > xorg issue has
> > been reported with ATI.  Has anyone else experienced this
> > vith nvidia?
> >
> This may help:
>
>
> http://www.google.com/search?q=jaunty+nvidia+drivers&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a
>
> The first hit said the 108.11 driver was the latest recommended driver.
> Sorry, haven't installed jaunty yet so can't comment on it.  However, it's
> not too uncommen having to install a newer driver
> especially after a new kernel is installed or perhaps it's a bug. If it
> were me I'd do an 'aptitude search nvidia' to see what is availabe in the
> proprietary drivers that might suit you needs.  Also, reboot in recovery
> mode and select xfix, let it run to completion, then continue the boot and
> it might fix X. I assume that xfix is still there in Jaunty beta.  You might
> also google for your video chip+jaunty and perhaps locate the specific
> nvidia module recommended for our card/chip.  there are lots of googling
> possibilities that may help solve your problem. HTH,
> Leonard Chatagnier
> lenc5570 at sbcglobal.net
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Ray Parrish <crp at cmc.net>
> To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" <
> ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 22:26:42 -0700
> Subject: Re: Jaunty beta - lost my nvidia drivers
> Leonard Chatagnier wrote:
>
>> --- On Sun, 4/5/09, sdavmor <sdavmor at systemstheory.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> From: sdavmor <sdavmor at systemstheory.net>
>>> Subject: Jaunty beta - lost my nvidia drivers
>>> To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" <
>>> ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
>>> Date: Sunday, April 5, 2009, 9:06 PM
>>> I'm back to using the open drivers right now because the
>>> latest update crashed the nvidia video on reboot.  Downgrading the
>>> proprietary drivers from 180 to 173 doesn't help. I see that this
>>> xorg issue has been reported with ATI.  Has anyone else experienced this
>>> vith nvidia?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> This may help:
>>
>>
>> http://www.google.com/search?q=jaunty+nvidia+drivers&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a
>>
>> The first hit said the 108.11 driver was the latest recommended driver.
>> Sorry, haven't installed jaunty yet so can't comment on it.  However, it's
>> not too uncommen having to install a newer driver
>> especially after a new kernel is installed or perhaps it's a bug. If it
>> were me I'd do an 'aptitude search nvidia' to see what is availabe in the
>> proprietary drivers that might suit you needs.  Also, reboot in recovery
>> mode and select xfix, let it run to completion, then continue the boot and
>> it might fix X. I assume that xfix is still there in Jaunty beta.  You might
>> also google for your video chip+jaunty and perhaps locate the specific
>> nvidia module recommended for our card/chip.  there are lots of googling
>> possibilities that may help solve your problem. HTH,
>> Leonard Chatagnier
>> lenc5570 at sbcglobal.net
>>
>>
> Hi Leonard,
>
> I haven't heard of xfix before, and there isn't a man page for it on my
> system, nor a binary of that name in my path, and when I searched for it in
> Synaptic, I only came up with libxfixes3, and it's companion packages of
> libfixes-dbg, and libfixes-dev, no binary named xfix.
>
> You say that it is accessible from within recovery console, where I've
> never been before, so I'm assuming it is a menu entry within recovery
> console somewhere. Is this right? I guess I really should boot into the
> recovery console at least once, just to see what's there, can't learn
> anything if I don't explore. 8-)
>
> Later, Ray Parrish
>
> --
> Human reviewed index of links about the computer
> http://www.rayslinks.com
> Poetry from the mind of a Schizophrenic
> http://www.writingsoftheschizophrenic.com/
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Matthew Flaschen <matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu>
> To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" <
> ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 01:58:18 -0400
> Subject: Re: 3GiB ram, gnome-system-monitor now says 2.9GiB
> J. Limon wrote:
> > Greetings,
> >
> > Previous to using the Jaunty beta, I had been using whatever the latest
> > version of Linux Mint is (6.x I think?) and their version of
> > gnome-system-monitor had always correctly displayed my RAM as being
> > 3.0GiB but ever since switching to Ubuntu, it is now 2.9GiB.
> >
> > While I fully acknowledge that this is superficial and absolutely
> > frivolous - I'm just curious as to why this could be, maybe a new patch
> > to gnome-system-monitor which handles the rounding up and down of these
> > numbers?
>
> I doubt it's a rounding issue.  One possibility is you have different
> drivers, and an Ubuntu one is reserving some memory.
>
> Matt Flaschen
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Matthew Flaschen <matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu>
> To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" <
> ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 02:00:03 -0400
> Subject: Re: /home partition
> Allen Meyers wrote:
>
> > have goggled a bunch on this home partition
> > thing and I did not accept it originally on the live CD option.
>
> I do highly recommend a home partition.
>
> >Please advise and if it a re-install and accept from live CD well
> advise as well, but I do want
> > a functioning home partition and do what I must do to maintain it's
> > functionality.
>
> Backing up and reinstalling would certainly be easiest for a new user.
> My theory on repartitioning is that lossless repartitioning is possible
> (http://blogcritics.org/archives/2007/04/01/095755.php) but it's never
> guaranteed. So, you have to backup first, and if you're going to backup
> first...you might as well blow everything away.
>
> As far as advice, not sure exactly what you're asking.  It always helps
> to paste in your current partition layout when asking such questions.  Run:
>
> sudo parted /dev/sda print
>
> That will print your partition table.  Then, we can give more informed
> advice.
>
> Matt Flaschen
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Bret Busby <bret at busby.net>
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 13:59:14 +0800 (WST)
> Subject: Re: problem with chmod
> On Sun, 5 Apr 2009, Thorny wrote:
>
>
>> On Sun, 05 Apr 2009 03:55:14 +0800, Bret Busby posted: [...]
>>
>>> :~$ cat /etc/fstab
>>> # /etc/fstab: static file system information. # # <file system> <mount
>>> point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass> proc            /proc
>>>       proc    defaults        0       0 # /dev/sda8
>>> UUID=3bb93d1c-1875-4036-90c7-846e954ceb45 /data         ext3    defaults
>>>     0       0 # /dev/sda5
>>> UUID=cb771616-3630-4139-9b1d-c3fb499d9949 /debian_home  ext3    defaults
>>>     0       0 # /dev/sda7
>>> UUID=1b72f837-17e1-4af9-9f22-31dc9a191657 /               ext3
>>> relatime,errors=remount-ro 0       1 # /dev/sda6
>>> UUID=b421ce00-c5cc-4df1-9102-65b0b256376d none            swap    sw
>>>       0       0 /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660
>>> user,noauto,exec,utf8 0       0 /dev/scd1       /media/cdrom1
>>> udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0       0 /dev/fd0
>>> /media/floppy0
>>>  auto    rw,user,noauto,exec,utf8 0       0
>>>
>>>
>> Well Bret, assuming you have the correct UUIDs, those partitions should be
>> mounted in the filesystem, however, you don't mention where you expect
>> them to be mounted, what are you trying to achieve?
>>
>>
> I want to be able to access what is in those two partitions - read and
> write access, from the Debian partition.
>
>  [...]
>>
>>> [Thorny] So, list the two partitions you want to mount at boot so we can
>>>> compare them to your fstab.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  [Bret] The two partitions that I want to be able to mount  at system
>>> bootup in
>>> the Ubuntu system, are sda8 and sda5, as shown in the fstab file above.
>>> sda5 is the /home partition of my Debian system.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> sda5 is not the /home of your filesystem, the way you have the fstab
>> written it is the /debian_home in your filesystem, your filesystem will
>> not see that as home.
>>
>>
> I do not ant that partition to be used as the /home partition for Ubuntu.
>
>  From what I understand, it is dangerous to share /home directories or
>>
> partitions, between different OS installations, whether they be different
> distributions, or, different versions of the same distribution, as, amongst
> other things, incompatibilities can occur.
>
> I want to b able to access with read/write permissions, what is in the
> Debian /home partition, fromn within the Ubuntu partition.
>
>  sda8 is to be mounted at /data in your filesystem, nothing wrong with
>> that, however, remember because it's mounted in the root of your
>> filesystem, as a regular user, you will have limited permissions on that
>> folder. It's only in your home that you have permissions necessary to
>> write, that's part of the security model of the nix filesystem
>>
>>
> But I have previously been able to access /mnt/data partitions and
> underlying directory hierarchies, as a user, with Debian 3.1, with
> read/write access, and so I assumed that I would be able to similarly access
> these partitions from Ubuntu.
>
>
> --
> Bret Busby
> Armadale
> West Australia
> ..............
>
> "So once you do know what the question actually is,
>  you'll know what the answer means."
> - Deep Thought,
>  Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
>  "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
>  A Trilogy In Four Parts",
>  written by Douglas Adams,
>  published by Pan Books, 1992
>
> ....................................................
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Bret Busby <bret at busby.net>
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 14:00:40 +0800 (WST)
> Subject: Re: problem with chmod
> On Sun, 5 Apr 2009, Thorny wrote:
>
>  On Sun, 05 Apr 2009 05:52:53 -0700, Thorny posted:
>> [...]
>>
>> I just thought of something I haven't yet asked you. You did create the
>> mount points in your filesystem before trying to mount them, didn't you,
>> or are you expecting them to be created from the info in fstab?
>>
>>
> No.
>
> I figured that that would be done on rebooting, after putting the new
> entries in the fstab file.
>
> --
> Bret Busby
> Armadale
> West Australia
> ..............
>
> "So once you do know what the question actually is,
>  you'll know what the answer means."
> - Deep Thought,
>  Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
>  "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
>  A Trilogy In Four Parts",
>  written by Douglas Adams,
>  published by Pan Books, 1992
>
> ....................................................
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Ray Parrish <crp at cmc.net>
> To: chef11994 at sbcglobal.net, "Ubuntu user technical support, not for
> general discussions" <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 23:08:49 -0700
> Subject: Re: /home partition
> Allen Meyers wrote:
>
>> The great thing about support from a list like this is one is inspired
>> to grow and change. I have goggled a bunch on this home partition
>> thing and I did not accept it originally on the live CD option.
>> However on reflection I decided to give it a shot via my gparted live
>> CD, but now I must mount/fill and activate. Please advise and if it a
>> re-install and accept from live CD well advise as well, but I do want
>> a functioning home partition and do what I must do to maintain it's
>> functionality.
>> As always my thanks from little old Wortham Texas
>> My recent one and only venture into site design for my town of 1000
>>  http://www.worthamtx.com
>>
>>
>> Allen Meyers
>> texas.chef94 at gmail.com
>>
>>
> Hello,
>
> I checked out your town on it's web site. I was pretty much raised in small
> towns like that. [32 different ones by the time I was a sophomore in High
> School, as my Dad followed heavy construction jobs, wherever they popped up,
> for a living.]
>
> I like your door icons for your links. 8-) That's a pretty intuitive
> navigation artifice. My last two years of high school I finally got to spend
> the rest of, in one school in a very small Indian reservation town, and my
> graduating class consisted of 32 graduates, so I'm no stranger to your sort
> of town.
>
> I did notice that on your front page, the description text lines with the
> black backgrounds beneath the picture of the town, are arranged in four
> overlapping rows, with each lower row partially obscuring the text in the
> line above it.
>
> Oh yeah, I just remembered that that is probably my fault, as I have the
> font sizes in my browser set larger than the defaults, to make it easier to
> read web pages, as so many web masters these days seem to be using tiny
> difficult to read text for some reason. Old eyes need big text! 8-)
>
> Later, Ray Parrish
>
> -
> Human reviewed index of links about the computer
> http://www.rayslinks.com
> Poetry from the mind of a Schizophrenic
> http://www.writingsoftheschizophrenic.com/
>
>
>
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