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[Ray Parrish]

Leonard Chatagnier wrote:
> This thread is too long to read; please trim the replies a little-:)  
> Yep, I know I'm top posting but better than getting corporal tunnel 
> syndrome from scrolling all the way to the bottem.
>
> Leonard Chatagnier
> lenc5570 at sbcglobal.net
>
> --- On *Sat, 4/4/09, Ray Parrish /<crp at cmc.net>/* wrote:
>
>     >>     
>     > That's why I use konsole. What your doing is too complicated and I acknowledge you have put much
>      more than I into learning how Ubuntu works.
>     >  
>     >   
>     >> I much prefer the full use of the mouse and other GUI
>

>     >> niceties when I'm 
>     >> editing files, so I always use gedit, instead of any of the
>     >> command line 
>     >> editors like pine, nano, etc... with all of their unusual
>     >> key combos 
>     >> needed to control them. 8-)
>     >>
>     >>     
>     > Really, as mentioned above, the way you do it is much more difficult for
>     me.  I prefer the menus for most things but for updating, upgrading programs and
>     editing configuration files, IMO, the command line in Konsole is much faster and
>     efficient. YMDV in this regard.
>     > Again, this is only my opinion but before you tell someone they are mixing
>     apples and oranges, maybe you need to be sure you are saying exactly what you
>     mean. Sometimes using a word like "terminal" can mean several
>     different things whereas
>      konsole or tty is more specific.
>     > Leonard Chatagnier
>     > lenc5570 at sbcglobal.net
>     >   
>     I'm sorry for any confusion you may be experiencing reference this 
>     thread, but the OP was being advised to start "gedit" with sudo, which 
>     doesn't work, it's a GUI application.
>
>     The Terminal I keep referring to, is the default command line interface 
>     for Ubuntu, and is actually the binary gnome-terminal. It resides on the 
>     Applications, Accessories menu named only "Terminal". It can actually
>     be 
>     considered a GUI application itself, as it is, but anything meant to run 
>     from within it's confines, is not a GUI application, but rather a 
>     command line application.
>
>     As you can see, I actually thought I was being quite specific when using 
>     the word "Terminal", as it is the default command line interface 
>     provided to Ubuntu users, and as such, I was under the impression 
>     everyone else knew what it
>      was.
>
>     The command line editors usage of key combos which are unfamiliar to me, 
>     is precisely why I find them more difficult to use, compared to the 
>     familiarity of the GUI based gedit, which is known only as "Text
>     Editor" 
>     on the Ubuntu menus. Being a long time Windows user before coming to 
>     Ubuntu, I find it more efficient to use what I'm more familiar with, 
>     rather than attempting to learn the whole new set of key combos utilized 
>     in the Linux command line editors.
>
>     Later, Ray Parrish
>
OK Leonard,

Just because you're a nice guy, I'll trim this down so you don't have to 
scroll too much, but have you ever tried using CTRL-END? It's a great 
trick to get to the end of a long file. 8-) I'd really hate to think 
that you didn't read my reply because it took too long to scroll down to 
it, I read every word, of every post to this group.

I mean if you're going to be critical, you could at least read my reply 
to the criticism, to see if I have any valid defense of my position. 
Note that I don't want to start any kind of flame war, but I do want you 
to understand my "apples and oranges" remark, as it wasn't really off 
base, since the only part I really wanted to play in the conversation up 
to the point that you replied, was to clarify that using gedit as a root 
user required gksu not sudo, as someone [don't know who now] had advised 
the OP to do.

Your professed confusion over my point, and your remarks that
> Very strange, to me anyway, that you said and experienced what you did above.
> I don't understand the need for the &, why would anyone stop a terminal session while editing from it?
which both led me to believe I needed to explain my answer again, and my 
attempt to bring the conversation back to the pertinent point that you 
cannot start gedit with sudo, which again is all I wanted to say in the 
first place, regardless of how easy it might be to use any other editor 
to do the same job, which had nothing to do with my point whatsoever.

I've told you before that when I see misinformation I like to correct 
it, and I did so in a clear rational manner in the only reply I 
originally intended to make to this thread. I still do not see what was 
confusing to you about it.

Later, Ray Parrish

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