changing grub

[Ray Parrish]

Leonard Chatagnier wrote:
>
> --- On Sat, 4/4/09, Ray Parrish <crp at cmc.net> wrote:
>
>   
>> From: Ray Parrish <crp at cmc.net>
>> Subject: Re: changing grub
>> To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
>> Date: Saturday, April 4, 2009, 1:39 PM
>> Thorny wrote:
>>     
>>> [...]
>>>    
>>> [Ray Parrish]
>>>   
>>>       
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> Just wanted to address a small fine point
>>>>>           
>> here. When starting a GUI
>>     
>>>>> application with root privileges, such as
>>>>>           
>> gedit you need to use the
>>     
>>>>> gksu command on the start of the line, not the
>>>>>           
>> sudo command, which is
>>     
>>>>> used for command line programs. so the earlier
>>>>>           
>> given command to edit
>>     
>>>>> menu.lst should be -
>>>>>
>>>>> gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst &
>>>>>
>>>>> I have also added an "&" on the
>>>>>           
>> end of the command line, which will
>>     
>>>>> cause gedit to fork away from the Terminal
>>>>>           
>> session, so that shutting
>>     
>>>>> down the Terminal window will not also shut
>>>>>           
>> down your gedit session,
>>     
>>>>> which is will do, without the & on the end
>>>>>           
>> of the line. If however, you
>>     
>>>>> want any error messages generated by gedit to
>>>>>           
>> be printed to the
>>     
>>>>> terminal window, leave off the &, and
>>>>>           
>> leave the Terminal window open
>>     
>>>>> until you are done with gedit.
>>>>>
>>>>> The reason for my clarification of this point
>>>>>           
>> is that in my experience,
>>     
>>>>> attempting to start a GUI program with sudo
>>>>>           
>> usually will not start the
>>     
>>>>> program. You issue the command, get prompted
>>>>>           
>> for your password in
>>     
>>>>> terminal, then nothing happens after that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Later, Ray Parrish
>>>>>
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>> [Leonard Chatagnier]
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> Very strange, to me anyway, that you said and
>>>>         
>> experienced what you did
>>     
>>>> above.  Although, I've read on the list about
>>>>         
>> using gksu ipo sudo for
>>     
>>>> gui applications, I've never had an issue
>>>>         
>> using sudo nano to edit any
>>     
>>>> type of file using Kubuntu desktop anyway. I
>>>>         
>> rarely use gnome as I like
>>     
>>>> the kubuntu eye candy better but of course in an
>>>>         
>> Ubuntu install. I don't
>>     
>>>> understand the need for the &, why would
>>>>         
>> anyone stop a terminal session
>>     
>>>> while editing from it? Even if stopped by error,
>>>>         
>> it's simle to restart
>>     
>>>> it and continue. Gnome, or the Ubuntu Desktop, may
>>>>         
>> react differently
>>     
>>>> than the Kubuntu Desktop, I really don't know.
>>>>         
>> Nano is the default
>>     
>>>> editor for Kubuntu and works well for me in an
>>>>         
>> Ubuntu install. I am
>>     
>>>> using Kensole or a tty terminal in reference to
>>>>         
>> what I've said.  Just
>>     
>>>> another persons viewpoint. Leonard Chatagnier
>>>>         
>> lenc5570 at sbcglobal.net
>>     
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>> I think the difference "strangeness"
>>>       
>> probably stems from the different
>>     
>>> "environment" one can be in when they start
>>>       
>> a terminal with gksu than when
>>     
>>> one starts a program as sudo. I agree with you
>>>       
>> Leonard, that sudo nano,
>>     
>>> along with the proper path to the file you want to
>>>       
>> edit will work as
>>     
>>> expected. Some things appear to not work as expected,
>>>       
>> generally because
>>     
>>> our expectations are faulty, the $PATH environment
>>>       
>> variable differences
>>     
>>> between regular user and root user is one that often
>>>       
>> is a source of
>>     
>>> confusion.
>>>   
>>>       
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'm *not* starting Terminal with gksu, I'm starting
>> gedit *from* 
>> Terminal with gksu. Again, nano is not a GUI application.
>>
>> Later, Ray Parrish
>>
>>     
> I didn't imply or suggest you were starting a terminal program with gksu.
>
> Leonard Chatagnier
> lenc5570 at sbcglobal.net
>   
Didn't say you did, I was replying to Thorny there, in his preferred 
threading reply mode, which upon reflection does make more sense than I 
had previously been allowing it. He's the one that mentioned starting 
Terminal with gksu. 8-)

Later, Ray Parrish

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