screen resolution problems with Hardy Herron

[Michael "TheZorch" Haney]

Rashkae wrote:
> Michael "TheZorch" Haney wrote:
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>> Derek Broughton wrote:
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>>> Michael "TheZorch" Haney wrote:
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>>>> Derek Broughton wrote:
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>>>>> Robert Holtzman wrote:
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>>>>>> On Wed, 24 Sep 2008, Derek Broughton wrote:
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>>>>>>> Robert Holtzman wrote:
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>>>>>>>> Damned strange. System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution works like
>>>>>>>> a charm on my box. That doesn't sound like a bug to me.
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>>>>>>> Sounds normal to me.  Bugs that affect _everybody_ rarely make it into
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> stable release.  It's the ones like this that only effect some people
>>>>>>> that cause the trouble...
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>>>>>> What would make the bug only affect some users? Different hardware?
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>>>>> Definitely.  As usual, some hardware properly reports its capabilities to
>>>>> X, some hardware is well enough known that we can work around it, and
>>>>> some is just plain badly behaved...
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>>>> Regardless removing the ability to easily change your monitor settings
>>>> is a major downgrade in functionality rather than an improvement.
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>>> Nobody has "removed" the functionality - it just isn't available for all
>>> hardware.  It never has been, afaik.
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>> You just are getting it.  Gods you people are hard headed.  If you 
>> cannot change your monitor settings (ie; tell Ubuntu what kind of 
>> monitor you have) from the same applet window where you change your 
>> screen resolution then it was "removed".
>>
>> he functionality was there in Ubuntu 7.10.  Its not there in the current 
>> version ... therefore it was "removed".
>>
>> It needs to be put back, so that if the monitor isn't be detected during 
>> the install at least the user can manually change the monitor settings 
>> easily.  How fracking hard is that to understand?!  Why is this so 
>> difficult a concept to comprehend?! 
>>
>> This missing feature is costing Ubuntu NEW USERS, it needs to be 
>> addressed.  Get your head out of the sand and wake up!
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> Dude, calm down and take happy pills.  Contrary to your statement, the
> Gutsy Display resolution dialog does not allow you to specify monitor type.
>
> With hardy, however, displayconfig-gtk is installed by default
> (although, not enabled in the default menus), that that one *does* allow
> you to specify your monitor.. so you see, your complaint is already
> addressed.
>
>   
AGAIN, skirting and ignoring the issue!  This why I'm getting pissed, 
people are ignoring the problem or can't comprehend that I'm trying to 
approach this issue from the perspective of a person who's computer 
knowledge is limited to just how to turn on the computer and clicking 
the mouse to make the programs run.  Sure a seasoned computer geek like 
me can learn to use the terminal tweak settings and config files but 
your average user will be turned off by that.

The display resolution dialog box in Hardy should ALSO let you choose 
your monitor type like the Gutsy display resolution dialog box does.  
That is the point I'm trying to get across.  The fact that it doesn't is 
the issue.  Saying that you can do this or that or fix it is just 
skirting the issue and sweeping it under the rug rather than really 
addressing it.

That is why I'm pissed, because people don't seem to fracking care that 
a such a simple change in the display resolution dialog is turning new 
users off of Ubuntu and preventing them from giving the OS a fair chance.

Jesus Christ, a 5 year old understand this problem better than you guys do!

That's sad.

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