phantom files

Joep L. Blom jlblom at neuroweave.nl
Thu Sep 11 21:25:54 UTC 2008


Carl Friis-Hansen schreef:
> Joep L. Blom wrote:
>> John Masters schreef:
>>> On 11 Sep 2008, at 19:36, Karl Larsen wrote:
>>>
>>>> Derek Broughton wrote:
>>>>> Mark Haney wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Here's my take.  (and OPINION only)  I think that the majority of  
>>>>>> Ubuntu
>>>>>> users are from the Windows world.  Ubuntu is pretty good for getting
>>>>>> n00bs on to linux.
>>>>    If your over 50 years old, 100% of you are old Windows and/or DOS
>>>> users. That was what was there before Linux. I enjoyed my old 1984  
>>>> 100%
>>>> Microsoft capable clone for many years with DOS on it. I recall in
>>>> College about 5% of the students bought DOS and the other 95% borrowed
>>>> from them. DOS was the original free operating system :-)
>>>>
>>>>    Since then they have spent big bucks making it hard to copy the
>>>> latest Windows.
>>>>
>>> In actual fact Karl, Unix predates DOS by about 10 years.
>>>
>> Unix was developed by Kernigan & Richie as they were fed-up with the
>> clumsy way RSTS handled things and the first copies date from 1978 (or 
>> 1976 I forgot).
> 
> I am confused. I thought it was correct that the first UNIX kernel was 
> developed back in late 1960.
> Ref.: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix
I stand corrected. The PDP-11 came onto the market in 1965 (and not 1975 
as I originally thought). It was a radical break with the PDP-8, PDP-9 
and PDP-10 series of DEC  which were based on an octal logic instead of 
hexadecimal logic (PDP-11 and much earlier IBM).
RSTS dates from 1967 and the first non-profit versions of UNIX were 
available in 1969 (of which I then obtained a copy).
Sorry that my memory was 10 years out of date ( well, when you're 
old(er) time flies!).
Joep





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