[OT] documents for the general public need to be generally readable

Bart Silverstrim bsilver at chrononomicon.com
Wed Oct 29 15:43:44 UTC 2008

Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
> Wade Smart <wade at wadesmart.com>  said:
>> They now claim as I didn't sign it my son cant go on 
>> such and such field trip (which is a required part of his grade). Our 
>> lawyer is now involved as they failed him on that.
> More of that (involvement of lawyers) needs to happen.  Our public
> schools (in the US) claim to offer each child a free education, then
> restrict how they may achieve that education,.  They need to be taken
> to task about it and /forced/ into open standard applications.

Out of curiosity how much experience do you have behind the curtain of 
the grand theater called public education?

This thread really needs to die, now, because this isn't a forum for 
public education being sucktacular. That in itself can easily fill its 
own forum, and I KNOW that more than enough people thinking they know 
more than they do will start jumping in without so much as reading the 
materials and books on education solutions or what kind of @#!$ teachers 
in public education have to deal with.

I'm not saying teachers are wonderful and perfect in the situation, I'm 
saying that both sides more often than not are shoving wheelbarrows of 
crap and are anxious to dump it on whoever's front step will open the 
door to listen.

I can't count the number of times I hear about teachers getting three 
months off...some of these dippy doodles want to become teachers BECAUSE 
they get three months off...only to be surprised to find out they have 
to take college courses in that time. Often out of pocket. Or that 
teachers don't do anything outside school...MUST BE NICE! Yeah, until 
you get off your ass and teach a course at a college (many allow it in 
junior college if you have life experience in a field for a course). Try 
getting homework corrected for a class. Then multiply it for a teacher's 
classroom of twenty to thirty kids, times at least 3 to 5 classes that 
are filled in that subject area. Try it and see how easy that one is.

There's a reason the dropout rate for new teachers in college is 
especially high during the student teaching phase, and it's because it's 
not a job that's all rainbows and gummy bears.

And no, I'm not a teacher. I'm just tired of every armchair philosopher 
having no idea what it's like but always has the answer and a need to 
criticize. If you have actually spent time thinking about it and 
gathering facts, feel free to impart your opinion. But when little 
things like "Act 48" ring no bells when considering issues in (US) 
education, you need to sit back and do your research.

And also I'm not talking specifically to Cybe. It's a general rant of my 
own. So please don't be offended, Wizard.

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