I got Intrepid on my new lap top but it has some wierd problems. I tried to sudo apt-get install thunderbird and joe and get the no such packages response. Is there no software like that for Intrepid? Karl -- Karl F. Larsen, AKA K5DI Linux User #450462 http://counter.li.org. PGP 4208 4D6E 595F 22B9 FF1C ECB6 4A3C 2C54 FE23 53A7