8.04 with Vista Home Premium

ike ibekwe ike.ubuntu at live.com
Mon May 5 15:20:26 UTC 2008


Newer HP laptops come pre-installed with either windows xp or windows vista. by default, the hard drive will contain two partitions - one for the OS installation and the other for the OS recovery files. installing if u have a version of "partition magic" that is compatible with windows vista, you can adjust the size of the OS installation partition. then restart your pc for the changes to take effect. you can then install ubuntu.

alternatively, u can burn your pc recovery files to onto a cd/dvd. once done you are free to delete all partitions and create your own custom partition sizes for windows and ubuntu.

cheers
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>    1. Re: Differences in new version of Frifox (stan)
>    2. Re: 8.04 with Vista Home Premium (NoOp)
>    3. Grub overlaping (Anna EdwARds)
>    4. Re: Undo 7.10 upgrade to 8.04 ? (NoOp)
>    5. Re: mucho mensaje repedidos (NoOp)
>    6. Re: Undo 7.10 upgrade to 8.04 ? (elmo)
>    7. Re: Alpha, beta, .... (Pastor JW)
>    8. what is ssh-sgent? (andy baxter)
>    9. Re: Finding hardware identifier (NoOp)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 14:26:01 -0400
> From: stan 
> Subject: Re: Differences in new version of Frifox
> To: Chris Mohler 
> Cc: "Ubuntu user technical support,	not for general discussions"
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> On Sat, May 03, 2008 at 12:46:09PM -0500, Chris Mohler wrote:
>> On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 11:33 AM, Justin Gruenberg
>>  wrote:
>>> On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 10:27 AM, stan  wrote:
>>> > I just upgraded a couple of machines to 8.04. I notice one significant
>>> >  difference in the version of Frifox bundled with this release. The widget on
>>> >  the tool bar next to the Back button that allowed one to open up a list of
>>> >  the recent history, and jump back several levels at once is gone.
>>> >
>>> >  How can I get this back?
>>> >
>>>
>>>  It's moved in between the forward and refresh button, if I got you right.
>> 
>> Yeah - I think the idea is to use the same list to move forward OR
>> back.  Messed me up for a second there too...
>> 
> Yes, that seems to be it Thanks.
> 
> Now if only Google Browser synch worked withthis version :-(
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 03 May 2008 11:43:11 -0700
> From: NoOp 
> Subject: Re: 8.04 with Vista Home Premium
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
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> On 05/03/2008 03:17 AM, Rick wrote:
>> Installing Ubuntu with XP should pose no problems. At least it has not in the 
>> past. I just need more room on a second hard disk, the purchase of which, my 
>> wife wisely says, is contingent upon my losing 5 kilos.
>> 
>> The urgent question has to do with my HP Pavilion dv600 laptop with Vista Home 
>> Premium loaded. There's plenty of room, but Vista uses a different partition 
>> paradigm from that in XP, and potentially is more complicated to use as a 
>> partner in a dual boot. I have read that 8.04 installs with Vista and have seen 
>> reference to such dual boots in the Users' correspondence, but when I tried an 
>> installation yesterday, there was no recognition of special conditions for 
>> Vista. Ultimately I canceled the installation, because I feared losing the 
>> existing Vista installation.
>> 
>> I would very much appreciate advice from some of you who have already installed 
>> 8.04 in a dual boot with Vista.
>> 
>> Thanks in advance.
>> 
> 
> Perhaps:
> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ubuntu+%2Bdualboot+%2Bvista
> 
> will help?
> 
> 
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 13:49:21 -0500
> From: Anna EdwARds 
> Subject: Grub overlaping
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> I have a grub machine with access to easily twenty thousand booting operating systems on 4 thousand machines, and i was wondering. Is it possible for grub to boot to another grub (or lilo, if necessary)? I want to be able to sort in a manner like a dichotominous key that you dont see everything at once. I know it seems crazy that i did this (i have been using linux siNce 2005) but i did. Can someone help me?
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 03 May 2008 11:56:57 -0700
> From: NoOp 
> Subject: Re: Undo 7.10 upgrade to 8.04 ?
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> On 05/03/2008 07:46 AM, elmo wrote:
>> Rick Knight wrote:
> 
>>>>>       
>>>> /boot/grub/menu.lst | grep Ubuntu
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> title Ubuntu 7.10, (CD)(hda2, hd0,1)
>>>> title Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic (recovery mode)
>>>> title Ubuntu 7.10, memtest86+
>>>> title Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic (DVD) (hd0,2)
>>>> title Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic (recovery mode)
>>>> title Ubuntu 7.10, memtest86+
>>>>
>>>> (This shows that I have the CD and  DVD versions of 7.10 )
> 
>>> Can you list (and post here) the contents of /boot
>>>
>>> Rick
>>>
>>>   
>> Contents of boot
>> 
>> grub                                         Yesterday at 18:12
>> abi-2.6.22-14-generic                 02/12/2008
>> abi-2,6,24-16-generic                 04/10/2008
>> config-2.6.22-14-generic             02/12/2008
>> config-2.6.24-16-generic             04/10/2008
>> System.map-2.6.22-14-generic    02/12/2008
>> System.map-2.6.24-16-generic    04/10/2008
>> 
> 
> 
>>From a terminal:
> 
> man update-grub
> 
> read that & maybe even print.
> 
> then
> 
> sudo update-grub
> 
> and you should be back in business.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 03 May 2008 11:59:11 -0700
> From: NoOp 
> Subject: Re: mucho mensaje repedidos
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
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> On 05/03/2008 04:11 AM, simon jose alfonzo ortega wrote:
>> siempre el mismo mensaje 40 y 50 veses al dia
>> 
>> 
> Ok here is a different one:
> 
> always the same message you see 40 and 50 a day
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 03 May 2008 15:01:11 -0400
> From: elmo 
> Subject: Re: Undo 7.10 upgrade to 8.04 ?
> To: "Ubuntu user technical support,	not for general discussions"
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> Justin Gruenberg wrote:
>> On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 8:56 PM, elmo  wrote:
>>   
>>>  What is the significance of "No LSB modules are available"?     That
>>>  line doesn't appear in NoOP's example.
>>>     
>>
>> It was my example, and as I said, I omitted it.  Here is what I see
>> (without me omitting lines):
>>
>> justin at zerolaptop:~$ lsb_release -a
>> No LSB modules are available.
>> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
>> Description:	Ubuntu 8.04
>> Release:	8.04
>> Codename:	hardy
>> justin at zerolaptop:~$
>>
>> It is normal it says no modules are available.  You can read more
>> about LSB here:  http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/LSB
>>
>>
>> Lets get this back on track to get you a solution.  Do you really want
>> to downgrade to 7.10?  Or are you just concerned that 8.04 didn't
>> install correctly?
>>
>>   
> It's not that wanted to downgrade back to 7.10 per se.  I thought 
> perhaps if I could redo the upgrade from 7.10 afresh,  the up grade 
> would install correctly and I'd be able to see evidence of that..  As it 
> is, everything,  the bootup menu, the desktop still
> look like 7.10 and menu.lst shows no evidence of 8.04.   However, I know 
> that 8.04 is hiding there,  somewhere.
> 
> I still would like to have the upgrade working correctly.
> 
> elmo 
> 
> 
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 12:03:44 -0700
> From: Pastor JW 
> Subject: Re: Alpha, beta, ....
> To: "Ubuntu user technical support,	not for general discussions"
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> On Saturday 03 May 2008 11:18:00 am Sandy Harris wrote:
>> Is there a way to find out which pieces of 8.04 are
>> in what state? Alpha, beta, whatever? Seems to
>> me we need one.
> 
> I don't think there is one, how would one search?  I suppose a 0.* match would 
> reveal less than released versions but then is the version number standard 
> that well observed?  What is the difference between alpha numbers and beta 
> ones?
> 
>> Firefox 3.x is a beta, but easily replaced with the
>> current 2.x stable release, via Synaptic.
> 
> I for one was happy to see Firefox 3 as in 7.10, Firefox 2.0.0.14 and previous 
> never would open most of the websites I frequent.  I had to rely on 
> Konqueror.  I did not feel any need to reinstall the 2.x series of Firefox on 
> my computer, ...and I have found no fault so far with Firefox 3.  
> 
>> People have reported problems with gnash. My
>> add/remove app says my 8.04 has an Alpha of
>> that, but . http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
>> says a beta came out in March. If I installed
>> gnash and id ugrades, would I get the beta? How
>> would I know that, short of "try it and see"?.
> 
> There must be a different than gnash tool to play swf as I don't have gnash 
> installed here.
> 
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 03 May 2008 20:11:59 +0100
> From: andy baxter 
> Subject: what is ssh-sgent?
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> Hello,
> 
> Could someone tell me what ssh-agent is? I have the following process 
> running on my computer, and I'm not sure what it does:
> 
> root at monkey:~# ps ax | grep 5474
>  5474 ?        Ss     0:00 /usr/bin/ssh-agent /usr/bin/dbus-launch 
> --exit-with-session x-session-manager
> 16932 pts/1    R+     0:00 grep 5474
> 
> 
> thanks,
> 
> andy baxter.
> 
> 
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> Message: 9
> Date: Sat, 03 May 2008 12:17:23 -0700
> From: NoOp 
> Subject: Re: Finding hardware identifier
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
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> On 05/03/2008 06:09 AM, Nils Kassube wrote:
>> Wade Smart wrote:
>>> Im was reading in the Ubuntu forums about tweaking my web cam and they
>>> keep talking about this hardware identifier. As an example:
>>> Vender Name		VenderID 	Product	ID
>>> Logitech 	48 	0x046d 		0x0890
>>>
>>> But none of these posts every say how they find this out.
>> 
>> In a terminal type this command:
>> 
>> lsusb
>> 
>> Then look for the line which seems to be the device in question. Another 
>> option would be to compare the output of the lsusb command with and 
>> without the device plugged in. The line which has changed is for the 
>> device in question.
>> 
>> 
>> Nils
>> 
> 
> Adding to that; after you've found the device, you can then use the
> verbose mode to show you more info on the device itself. Example:
> 
> $ lsusb
> Bus 005 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
> Bus 004 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 09da:0006 A4 Tech Co., Ltd Optical Mouse WOP-35 /
> Trust 450L Optical Mouse
> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
> 
> So I want to see the added info on the mouse (Bus 001 Device 002: ID
> 09da:0006), so I ask for the verbose output of the device on Bus 002:
> 
> ~$ lsusb -s 002 -v
> 
> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 09da:0006 A4 Tech Co., Ltd Optical Mouse WOP-35 /
> Trust 450L Optical Mouse
> Device Descriptor:
>   bLength                18
>   bDescriptorType         1
>   bcdUSB               1.10
>   bDeviceClass            0 (Defined at Interface level)
>   bDeviceSubClass         0
>   bDeviceProtocol         0
>   bMaxPacketSize0         8
>   idVendor           0x09da A4 Tech Co., Ltd
>   idProduct          0x0006 Optical Mouse WOP-35 / Trust 450L Optical Mouse
>   bcdDevice            0.01
>   iManufacturer           1 A4Tech
>   iProduct                2 USB Optical Mouse
>   iSerial                 0
>   bNumConfigurations      1
>   Configuration Descriptor:
>     bLength                 9
>     bDescriptorType         2
>     wTotalLength           34
>     bNumInterfaces          1
>     bConfigurationValue     1
>     iConfiguration          3 HID-Compliant Mouse
>     bmAttributes         0xa0
>       (Bus Powered)
>       Remote Wakeup
>     MaxPower              100mA
>     Interface Descriptor:
>       bLength                 9
>       bDescriptorType         4
>       bInterfaceNumber        0
>       bAlternateSetting       0
>       bNumEndpoints           1
>       bInterfaceClass         3 Human Interface Devices
>       bInterfaceSubClass      1 Boot Interface Subclass
>       bInterfaceProtocol      2 Mouse
>       iInterface              0
>         HID Device Descriptor:
>           bLength                 9
>           bDescriptorType        33
>           bcdHID               1.10
>           bCountryCode            0 Not supported
>           bNumDescriptors         1
>           bDescriptorType        34 Report
>           wDescriptorLength      52
>          Report Descriptors:
>            ** UNAVAILABLE **
>       Endpoint Descriptor:
>         bLength                 7
>         bDescriptorType         5
>         bEndpointAddress     0x81  EP 1 IN
>         bmAttributes            3
>           Transfer Type            Interrupt
>           Synch Type               None
>           Usage Type               Data
>         wMaxPacketSize     0x0004  1x 4 bytes
>         bInterval              10
> Device Status:     0x0000
>   (Bus Powered)
> 
> 
> 
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