ubuntu-users Digest, Vol 46, Issue 231

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Today's Topics:

   1. Now on Hardy (Karl Larsen)
   2. Re: Booting Linux Help! Help! (Aart Koelewijn)
   3. Re: Overheating Laptop (Smoot Carl-Mitchell)
   4. no internet access with HUAWEI fixed terminal ets2258
      (jony podder)
   5. Re: Samba server syncs smbpasswd file with unix user
      passwords even	though   the option is turned off (NoOp)
   6. Re: no internet access with HUAWEI fixed terminal ets2258
      (Davide Corio)
   7. menu won't load so ubuntu can't be chosen (Gary Kirkpatrick)
   8. Fonts in Ubuntu 8.04 (RC)
   9. Re: wrong info in package info (David Curtis)
  10. Re: Overheating Laptop (Pastor JW)


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 12:07:02 -0600
From: Karl Larsen <k5di at zianet.com>
Subject: Now on Hardy
To: "Ubuntu user technical support,	not for general discussions"
	<ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
Message-ID: <485408C6.101 at zianet.com>
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    I bit the bullet and unplugged the power to my IDE hard drive. So 
now the computer has only one 160 GB hard drives. I have both Gutsy and 
Hardy now running on the one hard drive and loading Hardy was a SNAP! It 
loaded from the LiveCD just like I expected and the Grub has Hardy first 
and Gutsy second.

    The problem with 2 hard drives is a problem with my BIOS. It is just 
a pure PAIN to use this computer with one IDE and one SATA hard drives. 
Now I have one SATA and it is easy to use.

    Now to set up this Hardy like my Gutsy is now.

Karl






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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 18:25:02 +0000 (UTC)
From: Aart Koelewijn <aart at mtack.xs4all.nl>
Subject: Re: Booting Linux Help! Help!
To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
Message-ID: <g312du$84t$8 at ger.gmane.org>
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On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 15:18:37 +0200, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:

> 2008/6/14, Email Message <sh_offshore at hotmail.com>:
>>
>>  No I am NOT kidding. I gat about 100 messages. If I log in more than
>>  once
> a day I get another lot. It takes about 20 second to get a new screen
> up. I only get 25 messages at a time up so have to keep changing screens
> (another 20 sec each time). I cannot see that there is any facility to
> mark all messages and then delete them in Hotmail. In any case I cannot
> do that because I have my own messages mixed up with the Ubuntu messages
> which I keep stored on the system until I can store them into my
> computer.
>>
>>
>>
>>  Of course if I want to read the messages it also takes forevery to
> display them and then move to another and display that etc etc.
>>
> You don't seem to want a solution for that, but here is a suggestion
> anyway: Create a new email account, it can be hotmail if you prefer
> that, or there are a lot of alternatives out there, GMail being one of
> them. Then unsubscribe from this list and all other lists you are
> subscribed to. Then subscribe to all the lists again, but this time with
> your new email address. Now all list email will come to your new email
> address and not interfere with your personal email.

I have some problems reading sh_oofshore's messages because they are send 
as html messages which adds a lot of unnecessary garble and makes them 
almost unreadable in my news client. Your problems will be solved if you 
unsubscribe from the mailing list and subscribe to the newsgroup 
gmane.linux.ubuntu.user, as I have done. It makes reading selected 
messages much easier. My problem, and I think a problem for many others 
on this list, will be solved if you refrain from posting in html.

Aart





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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 11:43:42 -0700
From: Smoot Carl-Mitchell <smoot at tic.com>
Subject: Re: Overheating Laptop
To: "Ubuntu user technical support,	not for general discussions"
	<ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
Message-ID: <1213469022.7047.4.camel at smoot.tic.com>
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On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 12:20 -0400, Keith Clark wrote:
> On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 09:10 -0700, Pastor JW wrote:

> Nope, I just tried an experiment and loaded Windows XP.  No issues, the
> fan slows right down and run quietly.  Under Linux it is always at full
> blast.

Run top or htop and see what is using up the cpu cycles.  If the fan is
running fast and the laptop still overheats, then the cpu is active. I
had this problem once with an IBM laptop when the fan was not quite up
to snuff to keep the cpu temp down.
-- 
Smoot Carl-Mitchell
System/Network Architect
smoot at tic.com
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 00:47:31 +0600
From: "jony podder" <josara at gmail.com>
Subject: no internet access with HUAWEI fixed terminal ets2258
To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
Message-ID:
	<c3ca07330806141147j456cf100xbba3184a5e940262 at mail.gmail.com>
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hi , i'm using ubuntu 8.04 . but i can't access internet with my huawei
fixed wireless terminal ETS2258 . how can i solve this problem?

jony podder.
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 11:47:32 -0700
From: NoOp <glgxg at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Samba server syncs smbpasswd file with unix user
	passwords even	though   the option is turned off
To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
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On 06/14/2008 08:20 AM, mo wrote:
> NoOp wrote:
>> Do you by chance have libpam-smbpass installed?
> 
> Yes, the package really was installed and it seems like removing it did
> the trick!
> 
> I blame tasksel for installing the package because normally I installed
> samba through aptitude and never had this problem before and I didn't
> knew about the package.
> 
> Thanks so much for the help, NoOp!
> 

It a Hardy thing. And probably related to this:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pam/+bug/216990
  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pam

You might want to review those, as there was an issue with the auth logs
being spammed if libpam-smbpass wasn't installed, or if the
pam_smbpass.so related lines in /etc/pam were not commented out.







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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 20:57:17 +0200
From: Davide Corio <davide.corio at domsense.com>
Subject: Re: no internet access with HUAWEI fixed terminal ets2258
To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
Message-ID: <1213469837.15060.3.camel at sirah>
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Il giorno dom, 15/06/2008 alle 00.47 +0600, jony podder ha scritto:
> hi , i'm using ubuntu 8.04 . but i can't access internet with my
> huawei fixed wireless terminal ETS2258 . how can i solve this problem?
> 
> jony podder.


Hi Jony,
try to follow this "funny" thread on the official huawei forum:

http://forum.huawei.com/jive4/thread.jspa?threadID=321383&tstart=-2&orderStr=null


-- 
Davide Corio
email: davide.corio<at>domsense.com
web: http://www.domsense.com




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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 19:25:02 +0000
From: "Gary Kirkpatrick" <pegngary at gmail.com>
Subject: menu won't load so ubuntu can't be chosen
To: "Ubuntu user technical support,	not for general discussions"
	<ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
Message-ID:
	<f71bd5ee0806141225g1b5aec1dh673a8171d9f7993c at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Ubuntu stopped loading after I removed data from a logical partition.  I ran
a grub fixer and now the menu won't load (menu.lst).  Here's what I
have
done so far.

$ sudo mkdir -p /media/disk

$ sudo mount /dev/sda5 /media/disk


sudo nano -w /media/disk/boot/grub/menu.lst

Changed all occurrences of (hd0,6) to (hd0,4) (I also tried 5 because sudo
grub find /boot/grub/stage1 yielded (hd0,5)). Then

grub
 root (hd0,4) also tried 5
Then setup (hd0)

When I used 4 I got error 17.

When 5 I got:

grub> root (hd0,5)

grub> setup (hd0)
 Checking if "/boot/grub/stage1" exists... yes
 Checking if "/boot/grub/stage2" exists... yes
 Checking if "/boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5" exists... yes
 Running "embed /boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5 (hd0)"...  16 sectors are
embedded.
succeeded
 Running "install /boot/grub/stage1 (hd0) (hd0)1+16 p
(hd0,5)/boot/grub/stage2
/boot/grub/menu.lst"... failed

Error 12: Invalid device requested

So I got farther but still no banana.

Need some help please!   Thanks  Gary
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 12:28:15 -0700 (PDT)
From: RC <raulcarreras at yahoo.com>
Subject: Fonts in Ubuntu 8.04
To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
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Hardy Heron:
There is no ?Fonts?folder under ?Systems-Preferences?. ?Fonts? is a tab under
?Systems-Preferences-Appearances?. The ?Details? button takes me to a dead end
in the ?Font Rendering Details? window. There is no way to the ?Go to Fonts?
window.

How do I add or delete fonts in Ubuntu 8.04 Hardy???

Thank you for your help.
Raul

raulcarreras at yahoo.com


      
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 15:40:40 -0400
From: David Curtis <dcurtis at uniserve.com>
Subject: Re: wrong info in package info
To: "Ubuntu user technical support,	not for general discussions"
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Doug Stewart wrote:
> I am using Hardy generic  32bit and Synaptic.
> 
> I was looking through the installed packages ans saw bc and dc.
> To find out what they are I read the package info
> 
> 
> bc info said to go  to :
> 
> "
> The GNU bc arbitrary precision calculator language
> GNU bc is an interactive algebraic language with arbitrary precision which
> follows the POSIX 1003.2 draft standard, with several extensions including
> multi-character variable names, an `else' statement and full Boolean
> expressions.  GNU bc does not require the separate GNU dc program.
> Home page: http://directory.fsf.org/GNU/bc.html
> "
> 
> 
> dc info said:
> "
> The GNU dc arbitrary precision reverse-polish calculator
> GNU dc is a reverse-polish desk calculator which supports unlimited
> precision arithmetic.  It also allows you to define and call macros.
> 
> A reverse-polish calculator stores numbers on a stack. Entering a number
> pushes it on the stack.  Arithmetic operations pop arguments off the
> stack and push the results.
> Home page: http://directory.fsf.org/GNU/bc.html
> "
> 
> Both have the same home URL???????????????????
> 
> I think the dc should have a home URL of:
> 
> http://www.gnu.org/software/bc/manual/dc-1.05/dc.html
> 
> 
> 
> How do I get this bug report to the proper people?  is the a Ubuntu bug 
> or is it the package maintainer bug?
> 
> 

Well, considering the package maintainers are Ubuntu Core Devel, you're
talking about the same people. Sure you could file a bug in Launchpad.

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs

It might not get high priority, but it's a really easy fix.

Dave
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 13:00:32 -0700
From: Pastor JW <pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org>
Subject: Re: Overheating Laptop
To: "Ubuntu user technical support,	not for general discussions"
	<ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
Message-ID: <200806141300.32490.pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org>
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On Saturday 14 June 2008 11:43:42 am Smoot Carl-Mitchell wrote:
> On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 12:20 -0400, Keith Clark wrote:
> > On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 09:10 -0700, Pastor JW wrote:
> >
> > Nope, I just tried an experiment and loaded Windows XP.  No issues,
the
> > fan slows right down and run quietly.  Under Linux it is always at
full
> > blast.
>
> Run top or htop and see what is using up the cpu cycles.  If the fan is
> running fast and the laptop still overheats, then the cpu is active. I
> had this problem once with an IBM laptop when the fan was not quite up
> to snuff to keep the cpu temp down.

Top ought to tell you alright, if something is hogging all the cpu cycles, 
wouldn't the system logs show what was causing the errors?  Xorg takes the 
most cpu time on my system but it never remains the same.  It drops off to 
nearly nothing at times and jumps up while opening screens.  I run KDE on my 
machine so have KSystemLog but surely Gnome has something similar.


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