ubuntu-users Digest, Vol 46, Issue 190
arun singh
arun.arwachin at gmail.com
Thu Jun 12 16:08:27 UTC 2008
6)..Installtion of compiz-fusion
>>Arun asks about compiz fusion
Hi i am trying to install the compiz fusion but unable to do it.......
please guide me how can i install it....Step by step procedure......
waiting for ur Solutions
Arun k. Singh
Computing systems UG student
Ping me :arun.arwachin at hotmail.com
Ring me :00-91-9873-465-526
Thanx
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> 1. Re: Forget Hardy (Bart Silverstrim)
> 2. Re: Similar Experience/Forget Hardy (Smoot Carl-Mitchell)
> 3. Re: update manager error (NoOp)
> 4. Re: Forget Hardy (Peter Garrett)
> 5. Re: ubuntu-users Digest, Vol 46, Issue 177 (arun singh)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:30:09 -0400
> From: Bart Silverstrim <bsilver at chrononomicon.com>
> Subject: Re: Forget Hardy
> To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions"
> <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID: <48514101.4040407 at chrononomicon.com>
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> Karl Larsen wrote:
> > Bart Silverstrim wrote:
> >> Karl Larsen wrote:
> >>
> >>> Derek Broughton wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Res wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> since I was right and you
> >>>>> dont want to look at it from any other angle than what suits your own
> list
> >>>>> nazi mates, I *will* end my participation in the thread,
> >>>>>
> >>> Well this thread has been right for my computer. I have tried to
> >>> load hardy 5 times and every time it errors out and just drops back to
> >>> the CD. I will stop now and wait for the next version. There may be
> >>> something wrong with my computer, but the 7.10 CD loads just like it
> did
> >>> a year ago.
> >>>
> >> You have a propensity for declaring the problem to be X instead of
> >> asking...but, you DID run an MD5 sum on the downloaded file to make sure
> >> you didn't corrupt the download, yeah?
> >>
> >>
> > I ran the cd test that is on the cd. It said it was fine. In fact
> > both of my cd's pass the test.
>
> Just in case, and since it only takes a few minutes to do, run the MD5
> sum against your .iso image and compare it to the website's stated MD5.
>
> The usual checklist...BIOS is set to boot from CD...
>
> You're saying it's *starting* to boot from the CD, then quits? So this
> confirms that the computer sees it and starts booting from it?
>
> I don't know what you mean when you say that it "drops back to the CD".
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 08:29:32 -0700
> From: Smoot Carl-Mitchell <smoot at tic.com>
> Subject: Re: Similar Experience/Forget Hardy
> To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions"
> <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID: <1213284573.30854.39.camel at smoot.tic.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
> On Thu, 2008-06-12 at 10:16 -0300, Derek Broughton wrote:
> > Avi Greenbury wrote:
>
> > > For usb drives and the like, I like (and use) UUID.
> > > For devices for which I know the /dev address, I use /dev.
> >
> > The problem is, you don't "know" the /dev address. You know it today,
> but
> > there's no guarantee that changes made by either you (eg, deleting an
> > unused partition) or a kernel update won't change that address in future.
>
> /dev addresses are just a mapping to the filesystem for a character or
> block device. They can be put anywhere, but /dev is the historic place
> where they reside in the filesystem tree. The names are even
> configurable. See manual page for udev which is the system that manages
> the dev tree. You will even see that /dev is a mount point to the
> "udev" filesystem. This makes sense, since this part of the filesystem
> tree gets recreated on every reboot and as Derek points out, there is no
> guarantee the name mapping will be the same on the next reboot or if you
> add or delete hardware, etc.
>
> UUID and Label are just a way for abstracting the contents of a disk
> away from the filesystem namspace. e.g. the dev name space is an
> abstraction of the underlying hardware addresses to a name in the
> filesystem name space. UUID or Label abstract the filesystem name into
> a more global or readable namespace. UUID is preferred because the
> namespace is suppose to be globally unique.
>
> On a desktop system, I think UUID is a bit of overkill, but if you have
> ever moved disks between servers, either physically or virtually on a
> SAN fabric, it can be a lifesaver. It was a bit jarring to move to the
> UUID system, but once I found out how the system works, I find it a lot
> easier than doing things the old way.
>
> If you want to see some of the gory details, take a look at
> the /dev/disk tree.
> --
> Smoot Carl-Mitchell
> System/Network Architect
> smoot at tic.com
> +1 480 922 7313
> cell: +1 602 421 9005
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 08:30:10 -0700
> From: NoOp <glgxg at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: update manager error
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Message-ID: <g2rfe3$gc3$1 at ger.gmane.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> On 06/11/2008 08:55 PM, Michael.Coll-Barth at VerizonWireless.com wrote:
> > <mad snipping>
> >> From: NoOp
> >> On 06/11/2008 10:30 AM, nik gare wrote:
> >> >>> sudo apt-get update
> >> >
> >> > you might want to do "sudo apt-get clean" here
> >> >
> >> >>> sudo apt-get upgrade
> >>
> >> Good catch - thanks.
> > </mad snipping>
> >
> > thanks guys, but no luck. I get the same error message. I even went so
> > far as to delete and download the file manually. I did learn a little
> > about the sources.list file.
> >
> > At the moment I am trying to figure out how to use fsck so that it just
> > reports what's wrong with the fs. Sort of like chkdsk in the windows
> > world. But it is late and I am leaving it alone before I do something
> > stupid.
> >
>
> There was a similar issue on this list in January 2007:
>
> <https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2007-January/104520.html>
>
> However, this appears to be a simpler solution:
>
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/2591
>
> $ echo -en '\n' | sudo tee -a /var/lib/dpkg/info/gxine.list
>
> replace gxine.list with gnome-volume-manager.list
>
> Here is a copy of mine so that you can compare with yours:
>
> /.
> /usr
> /usr/bin
> /usr/bin/gnome-volume-manager
> /usr/bin/gnome-volume-properties
> /usr/bin/gnome-volume-manager-gthumb
> /usr/share
> /usr/share/gnome-volume-manager
> /usr/share/gnome-volume-manager/icons
> /usr/share/gnome-volume-manager/icons/gvm-dev-tablet.png
> /usr/share/gnome-volume-manager/gnome-volume-properties.glade
> /usr/share/doc
> /usr/share/doc/gnome-volume-manager
> /usr/share/doc/gnome-volume-manager/README
> /usr/share/doc/gnome-volume-manager/TODO
> /usr/share/doc/gnome-volume-manager/AUTHORS
> /usr/share/doc/gnome-volume-manager/README.Debian
> /usr/share/doc/gnome-volume-manager/copyright
> /usr/share/doc/gnome-volume-manager/NEWS.Debian.gz
> /usr/share/doc/gnome-volume-manager/changelog.gz
> /usr/share/doc/gnome-volume-manager/NEWS.gz
> /usr/share/doc/gnome-volume-manager/changelog.Debian.gz
> /usr/share/applications
> /usr/share/applications/gnome-volume-properties.desktop
> /usr/share/man
> /usr/share/man/man1
> /usr/share/man/man1/gnome-volume-manager.1.gz
> /usr/share/man/man1/gnome-volume-properties.1.gz
> /usr/share/gconf
> /usr/share/gconf/schemas
> /usr/share/gconf/schemas/gnome-volume-manager.schemas
> /etc
> /etc/xdg
> /etc/xdg/autostart
> /etc/xdg/autostart/gnome-volume-manager.desktop
> /usr/share/gnome-volume-manager/gnome-volume-manager-gthumb.sh
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 01:30:48 +1000
> From: Peter Garrett <peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au>
> Subject: Re: Forget Hardy
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Message-ID: <20080613013048.f57f8bb1.peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 08:54:45 -0500
> Les Mikesell <lesmikesell at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Peter Garrett wrote:
> > >
> > > I also came to Debian through Knoppix, originally. Knoppix was never
> > > intended as a hard-drive install, as Klaus Knopper himself often said.
> > > For example, a dist-upgrade from a Knoppix install was pretty much
> > > guaranteed to break, and Knoppix used a mix of stable, testing and
> > > unstable, which is close to heresy from a Debian viewpoint. :)
> >
> > ...and the fact that it had to be in order to work points out the
> > problem with debian and why most of us aren't using it.
>
> This is simply not so. If you know about other Knoppix-ish distros -
> several of them were based on "pure" Sid. Morphix was one. Another was
> Kanotix. As far as I know, Kanotix is still around. It's also quite
> possible to roll your own live CD based on Debian or Ubuntu. I've done
> that with both at various times. They both work just fine... and I
> assure you that the differences are minimal when you look at the base
> systems without the added bells and whistles.
>
> As far as Debian needing to be a mix of stable, testing and unstable in
> order to "work" - excuse me while I chuckle and chortle ... ;-)
>
> > > Someone will probably pull me up on this - but as far as I can see,
> > > technically the Ubuntu way and the Debian way are practically
> > > identical.
> >
> > Except when they aren't.
>
> And that would be when, exactly? I was referring to the technical
> aspects and particularly the packaging system. Perhaps you can
> enlighten me...
>
> > > I think the issue with both "Debian" distros and Gentoo is that both
> > > have quirks.
> >
> > All systems have quirks.
>
> Truisms are fun, aren't they?
>
> > The difference is in how many are
> > automatically handled by the installer and administration code and how
> > many waste user/administrator time to get a working system. Ubuntu comes
> > out ahead in this respect, but as a side effect it permits, even
> > encourages, people who don't fully understand it to have systems that
> > mostly work.
>
> Well, ... yes... and... ?
>
> > And these people will sometimes answer questions on mail
> > lists incorrectly with something that just happened to work for them
> > which is more of a trigger for rambling threads like this than the
> > newbie question that was posted in the first place.
>
> Not really sure what your point is. I don't see how this is peculiar to
> Ubuntu at all, if that is the implication. As for rambling threads - I
> see them as an interesting symptom to be diagnosed. In other words, I
> ask myself and others the question as to what causes them - and I don't
> think that's about Ubuntu enabling people to have half-baked ideas
> about what "works". I've seen those on a lot of lists.
>
>
> --
> Peter Garrett <peter.garrett at optusnet.com.au>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:26:40 +0530
> From: "arun singh" <arun.arwachin at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: ubuntu-users Digest, Vol 46, Issue 177
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
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> 10).Installtion of compiz-fusion
>
> >>Arun asks about compiz fusion
>
> Hi i am trying to install the compiz fusion but unable to do it.......
> please guide me how can i install it....Step by step procedure......
>
> waiting for ur Solutions
>
> Arun k. Singh
>
> Computing systems UG student
> Ping me :arun.arwachin at hotmail.com
> Ring me :00-91-9873-465-526
>
> Thanx
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 7:41 AM, <ubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com>
> wrote:
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> > Today's Topics:
> >
> > 1. Re: Hardy is in (Karl Larsen)
> > 2. Re: Forget Hardy (Res)
> > 3. Re: best graphical mode on ubuntu 8.04 server (David Curtis)
> > 4. Re: not able to connec to the internet (Bart Silverstrim)
> > 5. Re: Similar Experience/Forget Hardy (David Fox)
> > 6. Re: Forget Hardy (Bart Silverstrim)
> > 7. Re: Vista (running ubuntu) (John Cavan)
> > 8. Re: not able to connec to the internet (Bart Silverstrim)
> > 9. Re: Hardy is in (CJ Kelley)
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:51:32 -0600
> > From: Karl Larsen <k5di at zianet.com>
> > Subject: Re: Hardy is in
> > To: philsexton at skybest.com, "Ubuntu user technical support, not for
> > general discussions" <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> > Message-ID: <48507314.9060104 at zianet.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> >
> > Phil Sexton wrote:
> > > Karl Larsen wrote:
> > >
> > >> I have Hardy d/l and will see how it loads later. From all the
> problems
> > >> seen so far I have reason to wonder if it will work.
> > >>
> > >
> > > I installed it on 2 boxen here and only one quirk with a
> > > SoundBlaster Audigy sound card.
> > >
> > > BTW, did you get caught counterfeiting when you ran a company that
> > > made money? };-}
> > >
> > > I had to earn all my money...
> > >
> > >
> > No but it seemed that I had to work hard and then meet the payroll
> > when the customer has not paid yet. These are the joys of being owner.
> > But when it was all over there was a lot of money for me. My wife and I
> > have enough even with $4.00 gasoline. But the USA is going broke fast. I
> > may not have enough for that.
> >
> > Karl
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Karl F. Larsen, AKA K5DI
> > Linux User
> > #450462 http://counter.li.org.
> > PGP 4208 4D6E 595F 22B9 FF1C ECB6 4A3C 2C54 FE23 53A7
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:57:01 +1000 (EST)
> > From: Res <res at ausics.net>
> > Subject: Re: Forget Hardy
> > To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions"
> > <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> > Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0806121051250.3372 at ebfjryy.nhfvpf.arg>
> > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
> >
> > On Wed, 11 Jun 2008, Patton Echols wrote:
> >
> > > On 06/11/2008 02:58 AM, Res wrote:
> > >> That is why people who only generate noise (those telling others to
> RTFM
> > >> etc) should STF up and not comment
> > >
> > > Uhh, well, just saying "RTFM" or "google is your friend" is not
> > > helpful. But far more often what I see is here is:
> > >
> > > "RTFM, try $man fm" or
> > > "google is your friend: http://link.to.fm"
> > >
> > > Frankly that IS helpful. When a noob emails the list and says: "how
> do
> > > I get foo working?" That is probably all they want to know, but they
> > > NEED to know how to figure it out. So giving a link to the FM is
> > > actually pretty good advice.
> >
> > Perhaps this indicates the web site and wiki's need fine tuning.
> >
> > > If you think there is a lot of ranting, or that this list is
> > > intimidating, then you have lead a sheltered life. Try a newsgroup
> like
> > > alt.comp.security. The regulars there can be very informative, but
> some
> >
> > I'm on 27 mailing lists yielding me about 1300 messages a day, and over a
> > dozen usenet groups, my time is limited, I do not live on them because I
> > have a life, if I culled the "generated noise' the lsits traffic would be
> > about 400, and I could spend more time paying attention to them, when I
> > dont because I have to skim into the other 900 messages to ensure they
> are
> > not noise.
> >
> > > will make a smoldering ruin out of those who don't do a little bit of
> > > homework before posting.
> >
> > You'll find most do, but I have already agreed with others that there
> > exists and element that want it all delivered to them on a silver platter
> > with them doing no work.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Cheers
> > Res
> >
> > I read usenet and lists in pine. But m$ outlook, thunderbird and gmail
> > often use html span/whatever for quotes, makes it hard to tell who said
> > what, so I dont try. If I ignore you, thats why! Use a compliant mailer.
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:08:04 -0400
> > From: David Curtis <dcurtis at uniserve.com>
> > Subject: Re: best graphical mode on ubuntu 8.04 server
> > To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions"
> > <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> > Message-ID: <485076F4.7050604 at uniserve.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
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> >
> > Jeffrey Tooker wrote:
> > > Carl Friis-Hansen wrote:
> > >> Donny George wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> hey steve
> > >>>
> > >>> i did the command and the screen went on scrolling with so many
> > packages
> > >>> or something. and now its kind of stuck like and says Reloading
> system
> > >>> log daemon and once i press enter i just get the prompt.
> > >>>
> > >>> is this some kind of error
> > >>>
> > >>> ??
> > >>>
> > >>> donny
> > >>>
> > >> Sounds like all went well, so:
> > >> sudo shutdown -r now
> > >> should get you restarted.
> > >>
> > >>
> > > Carl:
> > >
> > > I picked up on this list at some time the use of "Control Alt
> Backspace"
> > > for restarting. I use when xorg reverts to default resolution at
> > > startup. One extra try and xorg usually comes up in my desired
> > > resolution. Is there a reason not to use "Control Alt Backspace"?
> > >
> > > Jeffrey
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > Hey Jeff,
> >
> > Ctrl-Alt-Bksp restarts X and you lose all data as all X apps are
> > terminated or killed(?). To change resolutions maybe a Ctrl-Alt-Numpad+
> > would be better. But to be honest I have no idea why a Ctrl-Alt-Bksp (X
> > restart) would change resolutions? Maybe the new way 8.04 handles xorg
> > configuration causes this (are you using 8.04?). I don't think this is a
> > bad thing, Ctrl-Alt-Bksp, but a bit of a waste of time compared to
> > Ctrl-Alt-Numpad+.
> >
> > Of course the next question is how to make xorg start in the resolution
> > of your choosing. Try 'sudo displayconfig-gtk'.
> >
> >
> >
> > Dave
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> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:20:04 -0400
> > From: Bart Silverstrim <bsilver at chrononomicon.com>
> > Subject: Re: not able to connec to the internet
> > To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions"
> > <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> > Message-ID: <485079C4.3000609 at chrononomicon.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
> >
> >
> >
> > Felipe DOMINGUEZ wrote:
> > > That will be the last thing :-) I will even spend money on another
> modem
> > > before going back. :-) :-)
> > >
> > > I really think is some thing with the modem I have. it has an Alcatel
> > chip.
> > > The information provided by NoOp sais that the EciAdsl driver do not
> > support
> > > the alcatel chip.
> > >
> > > I have found a driver that seems to support it,
> > > http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=86112
> > >
> > > but I cannot compile it, it gives some errors.
> > >
> > > I think I will buy an ethernet mothem/ router, if possible something
> that
> > > is wireless as well as wired :-)
> >
> > You can do what I do...I have a DSL modem that connects via Ethernet to
> > a SOHO router (linksys, dlink, whatever brand) and that router handles
> > wireless and 4 ports wired for the network. Windows, Linux, OS
> > X...doesn't matter. It's just an ethernet connection.
> >
> > -Bart
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:26:14 -0700
> > From: "David Fox" <dfox94085 at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: Similar Experience/Forget Hardy
> > To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions"
> > <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> > Message-ID:
> > <359a3c580806111826g6729a2b1vac2e5fd521b09397 at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 11:26 AM, Steve Lamb <grey at dmiyu.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Still trying to figure out when that change went into effect and
> whom,
> > > exactly, thought it was a good idea. I mean the traditional method is
> > > that the position in the chain determines the letter and the partition
> >
> > I don't think sda5 could automagically become sda2, but I've had this
> > happen, but only recently on my new system rebuild. I have one 500 gig
> > drive (currently sdc) because I have two other older IDE drives hooked
> > up (hda and hdb), but I'm not actively using them - they're there to
> > bring files off when or if I need them.
> >
> > But if I boot another distro (like a live cd rom of sabayon or sidux)
> > those drive assignments change, and I have to sit on my hands and
> > think "which drive am I really going to talk to"??
> >
> > I can see this happening on removables such as usb sticks, but for
> > non-removable feed disks those things should be able to stay put.
> >
> >
> > > Steve Lamb
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 6
> > Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:31:22 -0400
> > From: Bart Silverstrim <bsilver at chrononomicon.com>
> > Subject: Re: Forget Hardy
> > To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions"
> > <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> > Message-ID: <48507C6A.6050809 at chrononomicon.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
> >
> >
> >
> > Ari Torhamo wrote:
> > > ke, 2008-06-11 kello 10:38 -0400, Bart Silverstrim kirjoitti:
> > >> Oliver Grawert wrote:
> > >>> hi,
> > >>> Am Mittwoch, den 11.06.2008, 09:54 -0400 schrieb Bart Silverstrim:
> > >
> > > [...]
> > >
> > >>>> You're talking about the spirit of Ubuntu. The spirit of Ubuntu
> > doesn't
> > >>>> include encouraging ignorance and reliance on others. It means
> sharing
> > >>>> information and learning to make you a better person for the
> > experience.
> > >>>>
> > >>> but also to get this information across in a respectful human way ...
> > >> Dammit, there goes my brainworms idea. Respectful, but not quite
> human.
> > >>
> > >> Would it be fair to say you just want people to be nice in answering
> > >> questions unless provoked? good summary, yeah? No?
> > >>
> > >> Again...I really don't think the concerns you're voicing are really
> > >> common on this list, but maybe I'm missing something. I'm not really
> > >> here to pick a fight with you :-)
> > >
> > >
> > > You seem to be missing yourself. This is what you said yesterday:
> > >
> > > "?Everyone gets a lashing here at some point. You keep trying to learn
> > > and grow a thicker skin and you'd be fine".
> >
> > I remember saying that...but...how does this contradict what I said in
> > the quote before? I was asking you if it would be fair to sum up your
> > position as you want people to be nice in answering questions unless the
> > answerers are provoked...you're quoting my statement that everyone on
> > the list gets a lashing at some point and you just end up chalking it up
> > as something that's going to happen. No?
> >
> > The part beginning "again..." was a reference to the overall topic
> > argument in the first place; I don't recall seeing this behavior as
> > common, everyday occurrences. This is probably the part you were just
> > referring to; respectfully, I submit this elaboration: everyone ends up
> > feeling like they are (or really do get) attacked on this list at some
> > point, but I don't think it's a common event. I don't post here, and I
> > don't think most of the people on the list, post here expecting to be
> > abused for it, and there are usually circumstances or some provocation
> > when it does happen.
> >
> > Is that fair?
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 7
> > Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:33:44 -0400
> > From: John Cavan <john at damncats.org>
> > Subject: Re: Vista (running ubuntu)
> > To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions"
> > <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> > Message-ID: <48507CF8.9020207 at damncats.org>
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> >
> > NoOp wrote:
> > > On 06/11/2008 09:52 AM, NoOp wrote:
> > > Well so much for kvm :-(
> > >
> > > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM
> > >
> > > KVM requires a processor that supports 'virtualization' & when I run:
> > >
> > > egrep '(vmx|svm)' /proc/cpuinfo
> > >
> > > I receive nothing back. So I reckon that I'm out of luck. I'll just
> > > stick with VirtualBox for now.
> >
> > AMD and Intel started adding virtualization support in 2005/2006 and I
> > think all of the dual/quad core processors support it. Wikipedia has a
> > pretty good article on the introduction at
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86_virtualization if you're interested.
> > It's pretty much assured that the next machine you buy will support it.
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 8
> > Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:36:06 -0400
> > From: Bart Silverstrim <bsilver at chrononomicon.com>
> > Subject: Re: not able to connec to the internet
> > To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions"
> > <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> > Message-ID: <48507D86.6000803 at chrononomicon.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
> >
> >
> >
> > Felipe DOMINGUEZ wrote:
> > > sorry I get lost with this commands.
> > >
> > > as i said I am new to linux.
> > >
> > > I have run them but I don?t seem to see any strange thing
> >
> > Sorry...at this point I don't know what avenue you're pursuing (new
> > router?), but if you want, try posting the contents of
> > "dmesg | tail"
> > and
> > "ifconfig"
> > at the point when you run the connection commands but can't get on the
> > network.
> >
> > Then try posting the contents of
> > "tail /var/log/messages"
> >
> > Anyone with a USB modem similar to this know what log may have messages
> > for debugging the connection for him to post?
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 9
> > Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:11:11 -0600
> > From: "CJ Kelley" <debiani386 at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: Hardy is in
> > To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions"
> > <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> > Message-ID:
> > <1e4334e0806111911y39aa71a4q7ebb338b903a99da at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 5:44 PM, Karl Larsen <k5di at zianet.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I have Hardy d/l and will see how it loads later. From all the problems
> > > seen so far I have reason to wonder if it will work.
> > >
> > > Karl
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Karl F. Larsen, AKA K5DI
> > > Linux User
> > > #450462 http://counter.li.org.
> > > PGP 4208 4D6E 595F 22B9 FF1C ECB6 4A3C 2C54 FE23 53A7
> > >
> > > I just installed it the other day on my Toshiba Satellite a200 and it
> > works
> > perfectly. everything worked out of the box.
> >
> > besides if you do have a problem, just post it here. we are more then
> happy
> > to help you...thats what were here for :P
> >
> > --cj
> >
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