Brian McKee brian.mckee at gmail.com
Mon Jul 28 22:24:52 UTC 2008

On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 4:32 PM, Karl Larsen <k5di at zianet.com> wrote:
> John Masters wrote:
>> On 28 Jul 2008, at 21:13, Karl Larsen wrote:
>>> Mario Vukelic wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 13:41 -0600, Karl Larsen wrote:
>>>>>    I looked and found the page you showed but it was not clear to me
>>>>> how that will help with Thunderbird.
>>>> Did you also click the pretty icons? Here are the results from popcon
>>>> for evolution vs. thunderbird, from the list "Statistics for the
>>>> whole
>>>> archive sorted by fields", ranked by <vote>.
>>>> #<name> is the package name;
>>>> #<inst> is the number of people who installed this package;
>>>> #<vote> is the number of people who use this package regularly;
>>>> #<old> is the number of people who installed, but don't use this
>>>> package
>>>> #        regularly;
>>>> #<recent> is the number of people who upgraded this package recently;
>>>> #rank name                            inst  vote   old recent
>>>> 443   evolution                      509363 80793 404082 24432
>>>> 587   thunderbird                    141871 45359 91515  4937
>>>    Sorry, I do not know what your statistics prove. Of course for
>>> Ubuntu 100 percent of the Ubuntu installed HAVE Evolution installed.
>    Here they are. Lots of things can be wrong but all results are
> presented. The sample size of 100 is small but I am lazy :-)
>                What E-mail Client do we use on Ubuntu?
>        Checked 100 of the last emails to this list and the results are
> as follows:
> Thunderbird     36
> Gmail           20
> Evolution       12
> Firefox         5
> Mutt            3
> Apple           2
> Microsoft       2
> All Others      30
>        The results show that Thunderbird is used 3 times more often
> than Evolution and more times than All Others. I was surprised at all
> the Gmail use.
>        Another result is as follows. All 100 users have Evolution on
> their computer but only 12 are using it. One third of the users choose
> to download Thunderbird and use that.

Hey Karl

I think the problem with your method is that is counts people on this
list who post alot - rather than all ubuntu users.  There's lots of
them that never post to this list.  There's also some people on this
list - like yourself say - that post alot.  So, it skews the results
that way.

I know that I would show up in the stats for this list (if you sampled
enough email) as Apple Mail, Gmail, IceDove and Evolution.  Depends on
where I'm sitting when I start typing.  I think the larger sample size
of the popularity info is more representative of Ubuntu as a whole.

Those stats are there for exactly the reason you started out
commenting on.  Popular stuff goes on the CD and not popular stuf
doesn't.  Full points for the idea, it was right on.


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