Same installation problem over and over again.

[Nils Kassube]

elmo wrote:
> Andy wrote:
> > The instructions at
> > <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto> seem to be pretty
> > simple to follow.
>
> I disagree that the instructions are simple to follow. Look at it the
> way a Window user would or anyone who has never had to create a UBUNTU
> CD. At first reading, they may appear simple but they are misleading.
>
> QUOTE: "Ubuntu is distributed over the Internet as CD image files,
> called ISOs. To install Ubuntu, you first need to burn its ISO file
> onto a CD"
>
> This is the exact wording from that website.
>
> OK, so we look in our CD burner for a way to burn the ISO to a CD.
> Instead, we find something that will burn an IMAGE, not an ISO.
> Oops, wrong one?????

Well, you quote only the first few words of the page. The instructions how 
to burn the CD follows after that part. Granted, there is no word how to 
do it with Nero, but if you follow the instructions it should work. If 
you use another program than suggested by the instructions (i.e. Nero for 
you) you may find out yourself how to do it with that particular program. 
But if you can't find out how to do it with that other program, better 
follow the given instructions and don't insist on using something else. 
Of course the alternative option would be to write instructions for Nero 
and have those included to the existing instructions.

> Since Nero is the CD/DVD burner many Windows machines have, my comments
> use Nero as an example. I know there are other burners available for
> Windows and I'll bet none of them will burn an ISO to a CD but they can
> burn the IMAGE.

It seems that you think there is a difference between an image file and an 
iso file, but they are the same. If you think that is worng, please 
explain what you think is the difference between the two. And are there 
two different commands in Nero to burn an image or an ISO file? Sorry, I 
don't have Nero, so I can't check it myself.

> The process basically involves two things, extracting 
> the files from ISO and simultaneously burning them as IMAGE.

No, you may not extract anything from an ISO image to make it a working 
bootable CD.

> This is largely a semantics problem. Wrong choice of words, using ISO
> and IMAGE interchangeably.

The words image and ISO are actually interchangeable here. Maybe there is 
an additional / different meaning for one of the words in the Windows 
world, but then I have no idea, what the difference might be.


Nils