24 hour clock in Evolution

Rick rufus at hanadari.net
Fri Jul 11 07:43:23 UTC 2008

On Thu, 2008-07-10 at 06:46 +0200, Gilles Gravier wrote:
> Rick,
> Rick wrote:
> > It has been recommended that I use a pure Ubuntu program instead of one
> > of those "third party" thingies, so here I am asking about Evolution. In
> > Calendar, the 24 hour day is displayed, but in Mail, I see AM and PM. I
> > have searched the sources, but have found nowhere to change the mail
> > listings to the 24 hour clock. I will greatly appreciate your assistance
> > in solving this problem.
> >
> > By the way, in Nautilus the dates are shown day - month - year, whereas
> > in Evolution they display as month - day - hour (AM/PM). This will
> > certainly be rectified when I learn how to make the change in Evolution.
> >   
> Of course you realize that there is no such thing as a pure Ubuntu 
> program. Ubuntu is a distribution... not a software vendor...

Yes, of course I realize that, but thanks for the reminder.

> What happens is that Sunbird/Lightning are third party applications 
> (like Evolution) but are not BUNDLED WITH Ubuntu... rather, you have to 
> get them elsewhere. The problem you are experiencing is a localization 
> bug of Sunbird/Lightning. My recommendation is to go the the project's 
> page : http://www.mozilla.org/projects/calendar/ and submit... but in 
> your particular case, but 399851 ( 
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=399851 ) has already been 
> submotted to that effect.

Yes, that's the bug. It occurs in Ubuntu, but not in Windows. 

One of the Bugzilla comments includes the following:
"I am running a english install of Ubuntu, with my location set to
Sweden (we use 24 hour time). Also in the Gnome settings, i have
configured to display 24 hour time."

I also am running an English installation, with my location set to
Jerusalem. In Israel we use 24 hour time. But what are these GNOME time
settings? In System / Administration / Time and Date there is nowhere to
adjust 12/24. Please help me to find the GNOME settings.

> Note that Sunbird/Lightning is still version 0.8 ... so they are working 
> on critical features... localization seems to be less priority, but I 
> believe that once the product is finished, the quality will be same 
> level as the rest of Mozilla Foundation's software.

I realize it's still in development. I've been following it in Windows
since 0.3 (I think), but the problem also manifests itself in
Thunderbird! That's why I suspected an Ubuntu system problem, but that
idea was rejected by some other contributors to the List. That's why I
turned back to Evolution after having found it inadequate previously.
> I suggest that either you like the general software and you stick to it 
> and submit bugs and help make it better (in the true open source way - 
> not necessarily coding, but providing constructive feedback to the 
> project)... or, if you find other applications are better, switch over 
> (that's another very common mechanism by which open source gets better - 
> people use the better apps instead of the ones they might be "stuck" 
> with on proprietary systems).

Good advice. I am certainly interested in contributing to the success of
Linux and open source, but in the meantime, if I am to move my
activities from Windows, I need applications (and an OS) that provide me
with the functionality I require on a day to day basis. I use TB in
Windows together with EssentialPIM.
> Personally, I don't like Evolution. It's too heavy. Looks too much like 
> Outlook (though some people might actually WANT that). And for my work, 
> it's too slow at each boot scanning he several hundred hierarchical 
> folders I have.

I appreciate your preferences, but do you happen to know anything about
setting a 24 hour time string in Evolution?
> I hope this helps,
> Gilles.


Currently running Ubuntu 8.04. First Linux was Suse 4.2 in 1996. Tried
out a distro every year since then, waiting for required performance.
Ubuntu 8.04 is the longest trial ever, though it still lacks certain

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